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Old 01-24-2008, 12:01 AM   #1
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The existence of God is inherently unknowable. God isn't good or evil. God doesn't send people to heaven or hell. These are all human concepts. God could be zero. God could be infinity. God could be inherently intertwined into the fabric of our universe. When we think of God, we usually think of a humanlike figure who keeps us safe in times of need. An anthropomorphic God. A God that is preoccupied with a mere grain of sand in a vast ocean of galaxies. It is absurd to think that the entire universe was "created" for man. But what "created" the Big Bang? Science can't answer that question. Thus, God represents the unknowable, the incomprehensible, and will forever serve as an epitome of mankind's hopes and dreams.

My beliefs don't fall into any known category, but neither does my God.
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So you believe in the 'God of gaps'?

Do you follow the bible or go to church?
Does your God have any effect on the world today or is he/she/it absent?
Does your God even know that he/she/it created the universe or was it an accident

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The existence of God is inherently unknowable.
Why is that?

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God could be zero. God could be infinity.
Then why call it "God"?

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But what "created" the Big Bang? Science can't answer that question.
Should "God" be the default answer to any question science hasn't yet answered or is unable to answer?

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Thus, God represents the unknowable, the incomprehensible, and will forever serve as an epitome of mankind's hopes and dreams.
What makes you say that?

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My beliefs don't fall into any known category, but neither does my God.
Why do you call whatever it is you believe in "God"?
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It doesn't sound as if your God has any value or makes any difference in your life. So what's the point in believing in such a God?
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I also would be interested in learning why you use the word "god" for whatever it is you can't know.
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It sounds to me like you just love the three letters g, o, and d arranged in that order like an actual word and then used as if that pretend word was actually a noun. But it is a noun with no meaning. Which makes your religion exactly like every other religion built around a god word, since none of them can define a god without resorting to semantic make-believe or pure gibberish either.

I'm sure you are very proud of your efforts to confound us pour atheist, but in fact you haven't done anything special at all. Still, it sounds like you and your make-believe little friend very much enjoy each other's company, so stick with it if it works for you.
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It sounds to me like you just love the three letters g, o, and d arranged in that order like an actual word and then used as if that pretend word was actually a noun. But it is a noun with no meaning. Which makes your religion exactly like every other religion built around a god word, since none of them can define a god without resorting to semantic make-believe or pure gibberish either.

I'm sure you are very proud of your efforts to confound us pour atheist, but in fact you haven't done anything special at all. Still, it sounds like you and your make-believe little friend very much enjoy each other's company, so stick with it if it works for you.
Let's not jump the gun here tj. Let the guy explain some more first. It sounds like the god of Pantheism to me. And the reference to god there only served to transform god into nature, IMO. I don't think he's talking about a god of the gaps either... only a reverence perhaps for the unknown.

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Maybe, but as I understand Pantheism, "god" is all there is, not just the things we haven't learned yet. (Or even those things we may be unable to learn, though that is a strange concept of its own.) In Condraz's vision as soon as something fall into some category, (another way of saying we have learned something about it) the "something" can no longer be regarded as being a part of god.

It seems more like "fun-with-words" than anything that has any meaning.
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It could be a kind of word game he has going here.... He hasn't ascribed any qualities to his God, nor has he given us any information on its nature. Maybe he's just replacing the word 'unknowable' with the word 'god'. The true natures of 'God' and of the unknown are unknowable by definition and so could be given the same name without causing confusion.
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The existence of God is inherently unknowable. God isn't good or evil. God doesn't send people to heaven or hell. These are all human concepts. God could be zero. God could be infinity. God could be inherently intertwined into the fabric of our universe. When we think of God, we usually think of a humanlike figure who keeps us safe in times of need. An anthropomorphic God. A God that is preoccupied with a mere grain of sand in a vast ocean of galaxies.
How then, could you possibly beleive in this god if he/she/it is unknowable? You have no reason, acording to your own beleif, to even suspect he/she/it exists. It is infinitely more probable that this beeing, or whatever, is a construct of your own imagination. Isn't that evident even to you?

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It is absurd to think that the entire universe was "created" for man. But what "created" the Big Bang? Science can't answer that question. Thus, God represents the unknowable, the incomprehensible, and will forever serve as an epitome of mankind's hopes and dreams.
My beliefs don't fall into any known category, but neither does my God.
What happens when science fills one of these previously incomprehensible things? Are they still God?

I think I see what you mean though. But it isn't necessary, or even usefull, to label the unknown or "hopes and dreams" as God. Things are just as marvelous and mysterious as they are. Adding the name "God" Can only brew confusion.


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