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Old 02-21-2006, 10:04 PM   #81
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Certainly for trival issues i.e your neighbour invited you to a party but you thought he was crazy and so ignored the invitation.
If the issue concerns life & death or possible injury, large loss of money etc: then the lack of willingness to believe/accept could be rather disasterous.
That doesn't make it crazy. It's crazy to believe without evidence that anyone has spoken to magical spirits or had visions of the future. Even if it happens to be true (which, of course, it CANNOT be), it's still perfectly rational to believe that person is deluded.
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If the issue concerns life & death or possible injury, large loss of money etc: then the lack of willingness to believe/accept could be rather disasterous.
That does not answer my question.
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Presumably, if a man claiming to be a Nigerian govenment official requests my assistance in moving a large sum of money out of the contry and offers me a million-dollar commission, disbelieving him could involve the loss of a large sum of money.

So I'd be crazy not to believe him, right?
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That doesn't make it crazy. It's crazy to believe without evidence that anyone has spoken to magical spirits or had visions of the future. Even if it happens to be true (which, of course, it CANNOT be), it's still perfectly rational to believe that person is deluded.
If an allegedly deluded person says something that is in fact true and you don't believe them, it is not them that is deluded.
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Presumably, if a man claiming to be a Nigerian govenment official requests my assistance in moving a large sum of money out of the contry and offers me a million-dollar commission, disbelieving him could involve the loss of a large sum of money.

So I'd be crazy not to believe him, right?
You must make the decision to believe or not. I can't make it for you.
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If an allegedly deluded person says something that is in fact true and you don't believe them, it is not them that is deluded.
It would just mean that neither of us was deluded. There is nothing irrational about disbelieving fantastic assertions without evidence. Being wrong is not the same as being crazy.
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You must make the decision to believe or not. I can't make it for you.
Believing in God is not something that anyone can "decide" to do. Belief (or the lack therof) is an involuntary act. One is either persuaded or one is not. If you don't believe something you can never make yourself believe it or "decide" to believe it by force of will.

If your life depended on it, could you make yourself believe in smurfs?
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Believing in God is not something that anyone can "decide" to do. Belief (or the lack therof) is an involuntary act. One is either persuaded or one is not. If you don't believe something you can never make yourself believe it or "decide" to believe it by force of will.

If your life depended on it, could you make yourself believe in smurfs?
Are they cute?
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Believing in God is not something that anyone can "decide" to do. Belief (or the lack therof) is an involuntary act. One is either persuaded or one is not. If you don't believe something you can never make yourself believe it or "decide" to believe it by force of will.

If your life depended on it, could you make yourself believe in smurfs?
Could you do it?
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Could you do it?
Nope.
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