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The reason why much later the crusader castles were superb stone structures was because there was so little wood available for construction. It changed the way the Europeans who went to Palestine built castles. The notion of the walls of a city in Palestine being built of wood is plain ridiculous. It was simply too valuable to waste on something that could have been constructed by use of masonry. The common use was for much smaller things, especially considering the sort of wood available in the area. spin |
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Hi Spin. You know, I think I would agree with you here, fundamentally, except at least two cities, Jericho and Ai seem to have all but disappeared for this time period. I can't help wonder if they fortified the walls in some other than the traditional manner. Ai was a "dependent" city of Bethel along with some others. I'm presuming when under major attack, the people from these smaller towns ran into the fortified city made of stone. Maybe something else was going on. Maybe there was a period of reforestation in the region and so wooden walls protected by trenches or moats? was the practice, especially for what seems to be an important but smaller city than in earlier times. Same with Ai, a smaller "town" where a wooden wall was practical. I'm not sure whether Jericho is mentioned in any Amarna texts either. whereas other Canaanite cities were. This might attest to its smallnest as well, though I think the city certainly was under Egyptian influence as evidenced by the cartouches found in some of the tombs. Perhaps correspondence simply didn't survive from this vassal city. LG47 |
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Why would such a big deal be made over a wooden walled village? Why would they need God's help, to take down a wooden walled village? Wood does leave evidence. Reforestation would leave evidence. You're making no sense. Peace |
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I'm probably dreaming here, but just some thoughts that might explain both the massive erosion and the lack of lots of stones or other evidence from the LBIIA period. LG47 |
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Page 261: "To the south of this wall, a small irregular area of contemporary floor survives. In the photograph it can be seen clearly how to the south and east the modern surface is below the level of this floor. On the floor is a small mud oven, just like those still used by peasant women in Palestine today. Beside the oven, a single dipper juglet was lying on the floor. This juglet is the only Late Bronze Age vessel we have found in situ on the tell. It's date is 14th century, and fits in well with the more precisely datable finds in the tombs made by Professor Garstang. ...The evidence seems to me to be that the small fragment of a building which we have found is part of the kitchen of a Canaanite woman, who may have dropped the juglet bside the oven and fled at the sound of the trumpets of Joshua's men." That's the picture archaeologist Kenyon is seeing here, based on the sparse evidence. Quote:
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Thanks fo rthe eco data on on the Levant, I was wondering if there was anything observed and published about that. |
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Thanks for your comments, though, appreciated. I'm just trying to narrow down the options with what we can find out at this point. LG47 |
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It appears that you have very little knowledge or experience in archaeology. As Yummyfur has already stated we would be talking about post holes several feet deep (The depth being dependent on the height of the "wooden walls " and the actual type of earth into which they are dug) these post holes regardless of any "erosion" are easily identifiable ,in most cases just by the naked eye as the "infill" tends to be a compleletly different consistency & colour to the surrounding "natural(earth)". |
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I wasn't talking about the wood itself being rotted away but the earth being eroded away. Page 261 "The houses of the Late Bronze Age Jericho have thereore almost entirely disappeared. We have already seen that over most of the summit of the tell even the houses of the certainly populous Middle Bronze Age town have vanished, and only levels of the Early Bronze Age remain. We have also seen how the process of erosion was washing away the Middle Bronze Age houses on the east slope..." LG47 |
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How deep are we to imagine the trench\moat to have been?
Since the post holes have eroded away, it's hard to imagine the trench\moat as well |
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While waiting and going back in time, I thought of something else Larsguy57, how tall should I try to imagine the wood walls to be?
I am asking because since you are so amazed by my artwork I've decided to do some "artists renderings" of your scenerio, seriously. Since it's your scenerio I want it to be to your specifications of course. I've looked around for some other photospaintings of what Jericho might look like: I found this Which obviously shows stonewall see if you can find him in the picture Be warned! It's a lot harder than the other one you posted to find! I like this one better It almost looks like wood walls [look how freakin' big the trees are! That helps the lumber question!] To the right looks like maybe a sharks fin or a clam], this supports the trench\moat scenerio. |
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