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different oral traditions from different geographic locations. Later additions but still came from sources that may have been close to jesus then paul as paul knew very little of HJ. Its evident the gospels were never dependant on the epistles. You know require special pleading the rest of your post was drivel and not worth responding |
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Bald assertion. Fact, matey, not assertion. You have such empty rubbish so often. Amusing. Explain the special pleading from reading the text of Paul our earliest writer for what he indicates. You've proven yourself incapable of serious response above, so I couldn't expect you to say anything better. |
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Muhammed Ali had sparring partners that were world champion quality themselves. Like Larry Holmes. The problem with sparring nincompoops is that they drag you down to their level.
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The 'GIUDEI-CRISTIANI' (Jewish-Christians) had NOTHING to do with Jesus of Nazareth, nor with 'jesuan-gnosticism' (the REAL 'εκκλησια' founded by Jesus) and nor even with the 'catto-cristianesimo' (catholic-christianity), now simply called 'Christianity'. The 'Judeo-Christian' cult, in fact, was strictly related to Orthodox Judaism, from which only differed about the vision and consideration with respect to the 'Messiah' awaited. According to Orthodox Judaism, the Messiah has not yet been revealed, nor the time of Jesus, nor in the current ones (Jews still waiting for his 'coming'), on the contrary, according to the 'Jewish-Christian', which structure of worship and doctrine was developed in Antioch (see Acts of the Apostles), presumably between 85-90 (and however BEFORE the famous rabbinical synod which was held in the town of Jamnia in the early years 90), the expected Messiah one had already shown into world, but was not recognized because of its characteristics and its 'mission' clearly contrasted with those of the imaginary common sense of Orthodox Jews. As we clearly shows the current rabbinic literature (Talmud and other), the Jewish contemporaries of Jesus of Nazareth believed him a man and NOT a god, with the aggravating circumstance of being a 'magician Exorcist' and a traitor of the Jewish people. (it was a POLITICAL accusation and NOT one religious!). . We find the charge of 'treason' against Jesus, even in the Mandaean literature. However, the concept of betrayal that was to the basis of accusations that the 'Mandaeans/nasurei' turned to Jesus, was DIFFERENT from the one on which were based instead the charges of Orthodox Jews. Understand and frame historically accusations of treason that 'nasurei' (now 'Mandaeans') addressed to Jesus, means projecting deeply themselves into what was the REAL dynamic that led to 'gesuanismo', for first, and subsequently to Catholic Christianity ... Littlejohn . |
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