Chili

It's really easy John. Limbo is the destiny of people who only use their Lymbic system for orientation in every day life.

It is only inside Catholicism that believers can have communion with the saints in heaven and have fellowship with believers who hold 'correct opinion.'

The rest can only go to hell (which is not to say that they must go to hell).

Are you 'with me' John?

John A. Broussard

True or False

A person can be a good, practicing, believing Catholic and hold to the position that unbaptized babies will go to Hell and burn for all of eternity.

If I can get an unequivocal answer to that, we can move on to more important matters.

Chili

In case you haven't figured it out yet John hell is for protestants only who have entered the race and cannot finish it. Catholics do not enter the race as Catholic until they are given the wherewithal to finish it . . . which will be in Gods. Period.

Unbaptized babies have not entered the race and do not burn in hell. Limbo is not hell (hint, have you ever heard babies sing "patient endurance" songs?).

John A. Broussard

This blows my mind. I go to Augustine, and he says they all go to hell. I go to the Baltimore Catechism (based on advice from a sincere Catholic) and I get the above cited answer. Now I have to go to CCC, whatever that is.

Surely, someplace, there's a central, agreed upon source of Catholic information about what happens to the overwhelming majority of human beings (which includes embryos--assuming that's official Church doctrine) who are not baptized prior to the "age of reason."

Evoken

Do not confuse Augustine with The Church, not the same thing. As for the Baltimore Catechism it is not the Official Catechism of The Church, the CCC(Catchism of The Catholic Church) is.

John A. Broussard

Now we're getting somewhere.

So CCC contains the official Church stand on Limbo. I'll go check it out.

John A. Broussard

Now we're getting nowhere. All I get is Limbo, 1261. See also Baptism; Funerals

From there I just go around in circles. Surely the CCC must do more than just put in the word "Limbo."

Help!!!

Evoken

Limbo is not official Church teaching, is it really that hard to understand that the Church is indifferent towards it? That is why it is not in the CCC. It puts "Limbo" merely on the index and it is to refer to infant baptism. That's all.

John A. Broussard

I guess I'll just have to take your word for it that the Catholic Church simply takes no stand on what happens to the overwhelming majority of human beings conceived on this earth.

Thanks much for the enlightenment. I would like to hear from other theists on this issue.

If original sin is the fate of all human beings, from embryo on up, what happens to all those who don't have that sin cancelled out?

Chili

All good Catholics are happy in the same way because they all know where they are going. They just write these different Cathechisms to blow the mind of a protestant who wants to know where he's going.