bleubird

In view of all the big corporate scandels in the last few years.
It would interesting to know what these corporate heads hold as a form of faith.

www.christiananswer.net/q-wall-aooz.html
http://www.stalbans.org.nz/teachings.../tencomm8.html
www.postfun.com/pfp/clean.html

seebs

The human capacity for making excuses for why one's personal behavior is somehow not governed by the rules is truly amazing.

bleubird

Try.
www.christiananswers.net/q-wall-gooz.html

Did you all like the colson site? Nixon? Born again.

bleubird

PopeInTheWoods

My favorite xian scandal is Robert Courtney, the xian pharmacist who diluted cancer drugs so he could give more money to his church. Doesn't scripture have something to say about murder, stealing, and lying?

Andy

Magus55

Yes, but what does the actions of one man have to do with Christianity? Apparently atheists haven't learned that one man's actions, or a group's actions, do not represent the whole of Christianity.

Toto

No one claims that this pharmacist was acting in a truly Christian manner. But Christians keep claiming that Christianity is a transforming experience, that religion is good for society, that the world will fall apart if we get too secular, and that all the Christians who do bad things are not true Christians. They just can't show what difference Christianity actually makes for the better.

winstonjen

Well, Christianity does drive more people away from it...

PopeInTheWoods

I've learned that no one person or group, or their actions for good or ill, can represent the whole of xianity. In fact, xians as a whole pretty much resemble non-xians as a whole. Which sort of runs counter to xian claims that xianity is a monolithic force for good....

This thread was about those who perpetrate corporate scandals, a group in which xians theoretically should be under-represented. The OP was a bit vague, and bleubird didn't advance the discussion by offering his/her hypothesis or interpretation of the data, but I believe my post was appropriate.

In what direction would you like to take the discussion, Magus55? Would you welcome an analysis of the religious affiliations of major corporate criminals? Would you like to talk about the affects of white collar crime? Or would you prefer to discuss the apparent contradiction of devoutly religious people committing systematic, deliberate fraud? Or some other offshoot of the OP entirely?

Andy

PopeInTheWoods

Here's an analysis of some "pious frauds". Of course it's entirely unreliable, as it's published on the American Atheists website....

Andy

bleubird

You are right I was vague. That said,I will state my premise.
I have known & worked for many white male conservatives
Most of which if asked whould say they believed in a god &
jesus was thier savior. They, IMHO , were good at compartmentalizing . That is, they put money & business in one place & religion in an other. My present super is a classic.
I posit that this may be due in part to the current form of christianity that puts grace over works.
Does this make any sense?


bleubird