cycomiko

not to mention all the idiots who call themselves xian and act like they know exactly what god/jesus are looking for in people. i'd venture a guess that there's just as many xians in hell as there are atheists.

note: that was not in any way directed at S-M or anyone in particular

lpetrich

(lots of empty preaching deleted)

Self-Mutation, you have not bothered to try to demonstrate your assertions. All you've done is make an argumentum ex baculo.

Self-Mutation

Explain why the Jews are not offering animal blood sacrifices at the temple to God anymore. Since they don't believe Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice that took away the need for animal sacrifices, why don't the Jews still do it?

Why did they give up? :huh:

gdeering

Uuuummmmm, because they lost their Temple in a Roman fit of pique?


Gregg

Self-Mutation

They have temples nowadays.

Amaleq13

They have temples but no Temple.

Sacrifices can only be offered in the Temple.

gdeering

You really should do some research, a christ-centered view of the Jews leaves you at a disadvantage.

sugarhitman

That has a lot to do with Israel. When Israel rejected their Messiah Jesus made a curious prediction:


"For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord."


and in Ezekiel 39:


According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and HID MY FACE from them.

25Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;

26After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made [them] afraid.

27When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;

28Then shall they know that I [am] the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.

29Neither will I HIDE MY FACE any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.



This will be the case until


For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, *until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.*

26And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27For this [is] my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

28As concerning the gospel, [they are] enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, [they are] beloved for the fathers' sakes.

29For the gifts and calling of God [are] without repentance.

30For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

31Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

32For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

33O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable [are] his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

34For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?

35Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?

36For of him, and through him, and to him, [are] all things: to whom [be] glory for ever. Amen.






God will become personally involved with mankind when Israel recognizes her King. Until then we must hope in faith.

NoeL

It's quite obvious isn't it? He died.

Keith&Co.

Wait, wait, wait.
Jesus didn't fulfill the prophecies for the Jewish Messiah, which is why the Jews don't accept him. Christains say that all the unfillfuled ones will be fillfulled when Jesus comes BACK.
Now you're saying that God won't come back until the Jews accept Jesus...which they won't do until He does the stuff He was supposed to, which won't be until He comes back...which He won't do until they accept Him...