PhilosopherJay

Hi Outhouse,

I have been teaching humanities and philosophy courses in college for 17 years. We talk about a lot of different issues in the classes. Up to two years ago, I don't remember any student suggesting that Jesus might be a myth. Even the very few students who would admit to being Atheists believed in an historical Jesus.
About a year ago, a few students argued Jesus was a myth as a class project. Last semester, I polled one class and half the students said that they believed Jesus Christ was a myth.
My conclusion is that something is definitely happening on a mass scale.

Warmly,

Jay Raskin

outhouse

again poor historical work like zitgiest has reached the ignorant, and has hit cult status for the ignorant in college.



A few college kids questioning this is still the vast minority, and learned out with half a education on the subject


A can see from your point of view this looks like a mass objection, but facts like 60% of the public still believing in creation holds.


with only 40% of the population believing in Evolution, you could say the same thing, that creation is has a mass scale of support.


and the numbers for mythers is no where near that. Even Carrier states the damage done by zitgiest is amazing, and he has to retain so many kids its rediculous

steve_bnk

Ease off the hyberbole.

Maybe you have never seen it. The1950s Ten Commandments plays every year on TV around Easter. A fictionalized account of Moses, Egypt, and the exodus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ten...s_(1956_movie)

There is a vast existing market of Christian music, fiction, and video. They will make a movie for which they think there is a profitable audience.

Mel Gibon's movie Pasion Of Christ. It is a gritty movie with graphic violence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pas...Christ#Release

'...The film was a major commercial hit, grossing in excess of $600 million during its theatrical release, becoming the highest grossing R-rated film of all time.[6] The film has also been highly controversial and received mixed reviews, with some critics claiming that the extreme violence in the movie "obscures its message."

Domestic release

The film opened in the United States on February 25, 2004 (Ash Wednesday, the beginning of Lent). It earned $83,848,082 in its opening weekend, ranking it 4th overall in domestic opening weekend earnings for 2004. It went on to earn $370,782,930 overall in the United States.

Despite the various controversies and refusals of certain governments to allow the film to be viewed in wide release, The Passion of the Christ earned $611,899,420 worldwide.[37] The movie was also a relative success in certain countries with large Muslim populations,[40] such as in Egypt, where it ranked 20th overall in its box office numbers for 2004...'

No lesbians, but this film on the female ancient scientist Hypatia persecuted and muredered by Christians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agora_(film)

'...The Religious Anti-Defamation Observatory (Observatorio Antidifamación Religiosa), a Spanish Catholic group, claimed that the film was responsible for "promoting hatred of Christians and reinforcing false clichés about the Catholic Church."[18] Michael Ordoña of the Los Angeles Times acknowledges that the film has been criticized for "perceived slights against Christians" but that "its lack of condemnation of specific dogma makes the film's target seem to be fundamentalism in general"...'

Movies are made for which people are willing to pay. Chistian, anti Christian, gay, straight.

As to your idea, write a sciript proposal and see if you can get backers.. Showtime or HBO might do it. Showtiome did Henry 8th and The Borgias both with Christian historical themes, both sexually explicit, and with plenty of blood and gore.

jdboy

Sorry bud we don't need to rely on claims of fact we don't need to rely on scholars. We have access to the documents we can make sense of them we can
make arguments from the actual text. We can discuss our understanding

credoconsolans

Blasi seems biased by putting pagans in the bad guy black hat. The bible story of Jesus' crucifixion wasn't about paganism vs Judaism, but Jew vs Jew as I recall.

Toto

Brian Flemming, the director behind "The God Who Wasn't There" had a mythicist movie project, which was first going to be called The Beast, and then Danielle. But then something happened, as it tends to in Hollywood. He last updated his weblog in 2009, saying "Will be lying low for a while yet..."

Minimalist

Then things have at least evened out...as poor historical work like the bible reached the ignorant centuries ago.

aa5874

You don't know what you are talking about. There is an ON-GOING QUEST for an historical Jesus--a "MANHUNT" INITIATED by HJers

ACADEMIA is LOOKING for Evidence for an Historical Jesus and this "Manhunt" has been going on for HUNDREDS of years WITHOUT any success.

Please, get familiar with the "QUEST" for an HJ.

HJers are NOW using the same Myth Fables that THEY publicly discredit.

Whatever happened to Your NO-TAX Jesus?? Academia is NOT interested???

Does anyone, ignorant or not, within college dorms debate NO-TAX Jesus??

PhilosopherJay

Hi Steve,

I use to watch Ten Commandments every year religiously. I must have seen it twenty times. As a child I took it as true history, now I see the film as a comical masterpiece.

I was not impressed by "Passion of Christ," which I thought should have been titled "Whack a Jesus." I thought the only good and believable performance was Rosalinda Celentano as Satan.

Her father, incidentally is Adriano Celentano, the Italian Elvis Presley. He was a big star in low budget Italian movies of the 60's and '70's. He has an unforgettable scene in Fellini's "La Dolce Vita" - He comes on at 48 seconds of this clip

Speaking of Fellini, there is a really great scene in Fellini's Roma (1972), incidentally, which takes place in an Italian movie theater in the 1920's. The audience is watching a silent film about the torture of Christian Martyrs by evil Romans. The gestures of the actors onscreen are exaggerated and ridiculous, yet the audience is incredibly moved by it and react to every shot as if they were actually witnessing the real martyrdom of Christians or as if they, themselves. were being tortured. It matches the Children's Miracle scene in "La Dolce Vita" for its cynicism and disdain towards Christian propaganda.

"Agora" was wonderful. It is actually much more balanced on second and third viewing than the impression it gives on first viewing.

Warmly,

Jay Raskin

steve_bnk

yea, I think 10 Commandments shaped how generations of Chrtias view histpory.

Ever see The Devils. based o an historical RCC priest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Devils_(film)

'...Since the time of its release, the film has caused enormous controversy. In the UK it was banned by 17 local authorities, and everywhere attracted many scathing reviews. Judith Crist called it a "grand fiesta for sadists and perverts",[citation needed] while Derek Malcolm called it "a very bad film indeed."[citation needed] However, it won the award for Best Director-Foreign Film in the Venice Film Festival, despite being banned in the country. The United States National Board of Review awarded Ken Russell best director for The Devils and his next film, The Boy Friend. In 2002, when 100 film makers and critics were asked to cite what they considered to be the ten most important films ever made, The Devils featured in the lists submitted by critic Mark Kermode and director Alex Cox..'