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Old 09-30-2007, 07:37 PM   #11
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Here's another Baysian approach: "He Is Not Here" or is he? linked from this blog.
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I have already studied all these other probability calculations. My PDF considers all their valid points and my PDF has additional modifying factors required to make the calculation correct which they do not. Also, my PDF solves both the extont and nonextont parts which I have not seen done by anybody else. Also, my Section 4.5.1 provides a comparison to the direct method to verify my usage of bayes equation is correct which I have not seen done by anybody else. Also, in Section 4.5.1.7 I specifically prove Simchi's calculation is invalid. So I think my PDF is at least worth reading.
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Matt 28:6. He is not here. For he is risen, as he said. Come, and see the place where the Lord was laid.

Mark 16:6. Who saith to them: Be not affrighted, you seek Jesus of Nazareth, who was crucified. He is risen: he is not here. Behold the place where they laid him.

Luke 24:3. And going in, they found not the body of the Lord Jesus.
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Matt 28:6. He is not here. For he is risen, as he said. Come, and see the place where the Lord was laid.

Mark 16:6. Who saith to them: Be not affrighted, you seek Jesus of Nazareth, who was crucified. He is risen: he is not here. Behold the place where they laid him.

Luke 24:3. And going in, they found not the body of the Lord Jesus.
Why are you posting this?
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Matt 28:6. He is not here. For he is risen, as he said. Come, and see the place where the Lord was laid.

Mark 16:6. Who saith to them: Be not affrighted, you seek Jesus of Nazareth, who was crucified. He is risen: he is not here. Behold the place where they laid him.

Luke 24:3. And going in, they found not the body of the Lord Jesus.
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I think the reason is quite simple any claims that the bones of Jesus have been found are contradicted by the Bible which says that IF it is correct there should be no bones to find .

So you are left with four possibilities

1) There was a historical Jesus but he didn't rise from the dead and ascend to Heaven and his bones were interred in the family tomb.

2)There was no historical Jesus and the Bible claims regarding his life and Resurrection are false.

3) This ossuary is a fake.

4) Jesus (Joshua) and Joseph are/were both such common names it is not all unusual to find then linked together like this
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Chris, Lucretius gave the answer I could have given.
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1) There was a historical Jesus but he didn't rise from the dead and ascend to Heaven and his bones were interred in the family tomb.

2)There was no historical Jesus and the Bible claims regarding his life and Resurrection are false.

3) This ossuary is a fake.

4) Jesus (Joshua) and Joseph are/were both such common names it is not all unusual to find then linked together like this.
I could add that option 3 (This ossuary is a fake.) can be combined with either option 1 or option 2.

Another remark :
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02006b.htm

St. Juvenal, Bishop of Jerusalem, at the Council of Chalcedon (451), made known to the Emperor Marcian and Pulcheria, who wished to possess the body of the Mother of God, that Mary died in the presence of all the Apostles, but that her tomb, when opened, upon the request of St. Thomas, was found empty; wherefrom the Apostles concluded that the body was taken up to heaven.

Today, the belief in the corporeal assumption of Mary is universal in the East and in the West; according to Benedict XIV (De Festis B.V.M., I, viii, 18) it is a probable opinion, which to deny were impious and blasphemous.

Pope Benedict XIV, Prospero Lorenzo Lambertini, reigned 1740-58. (for those who could mix him with another Benedict XVI)
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These ossuaries are not fakes. They were uncovered. Perhaps you mean the James ossuary?
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These ossuaries are not fakes. They were uncovered. Perhaps you mean the James ossuary?
Fake as in the inscription may be a later addition as was the case in the James ossuary which was from the right period but the inscription was added at a much later date .
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These ossuaries are not fakes. They were uncovered. Perhaps you mean the James ossuary?
Fake as in the inscription may be a later addition as was the case in the James ossuary which was from the right period but the inscription was added at a much later date .
They were uncovered. There's no way for them to be added. Unless you mean added in antiquity, but there's no evidence for it. It's just as reasonable as saying that aliens put them there.
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Fake as in the inscription may be a later addition as was the case in the James ossuary which was from the right period but the inscription was added at a much later date .
They were uncovered. There's no way for them to be added. Unless you mean added in antiquity, but there's no evidence for it. It's just as reasonable as saying that aliens put them there.
Some archaeological 'finds' have been re-enacted in order to lend credence or to build fervor. Check out the Cardiff Giant or Piltdown Man for examples - and those weren't even fired by religious fervor ...
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