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Old 01-07-2005, 06:31 AM   #81
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It's terrible, of course. And we can not explain many things
No kidding.

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I can not say for God why it happens.
You seem to be able to speak for God about how he feels about us.

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But we all know that the time will come for us to meet the death too, we are all mortal.
Okay.

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And I know one fact:
there was terrible persecution against Christians in Indonesia. Moslems forcefully converted Christians in Islam by circumcising Christian women.
??!! I suppose you have a source for this? Please don't tell me it's from the Weekly World News!

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Who knows, may be they prayed to God to take them Home out of this hell on earth?
Oh, that's brilliant. He has the power to create a tsunami that wipes out 150,000 people, but he doesn't have the power to bring a handful of people out of a country?

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JPD, we do not see the whole picture what is going on, God sees it better.
If he has the mentality that you describe, then I really doubt it.

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When natural events happen in your Christian country, you have many many less victims.
I don't suppose it might have anything to do with modern building codes, technoligies, the ability to afford said technologies, etc...

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God is faithful to you parents. He keeps His covenantal love to you. He is longsuffering and patient in spite of all your hostility toward Him.
I'm sure he was suffering teribly when he sent the earthquake.
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Old 01-07-2005, 06:42 AM   #82
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If god really existed we would need to find a way to destroy him before he destroys us.
And the only way to do this is to put the god idea out of our minds and lives. It is a flawed concept.

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Old 01-07-2005, 09:30 AM   #83
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he kills people in Asia because they allegedly persecuted Christians in Indonesia? Nice way to show his love.
Stormlight and other guys,
Please, do not read into or misinterprete me. I did not say that God killed people or made this earthquake.
Do you know from scientific research that even water changes its structure under the good or bad influenc? Prayer, classical music... made water structure beautiful; curses, scandals, some type of hard rock music made its structure terrible. Did you hear that? You can blame God for anything. Do you belive in Him or not?
And please, do not frighten me, I am not against you. OK? :wave:
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Please, do not read into or misinterprete me. I did not say that God killed people or made this earthquake.
Do you know from scientific research that even water changes its structure under the good or bad influenc? Prayer, classical music... made water structure beautiful; curses, scandals, some type of hard rock music made its structure terrible. Did you hear that? You can blame God for anything. Do you belive in Him or not?
And please, do not frighten me, I am not against you. OK? :wave:
Huh?? What the bloody blue blazes are you babbling on about here??

And if there is scientific research of some sort....please cite sources and original documentation.

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Old 01-07-2005, 10:32 AM   #85
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Do you know from scientific research that even water changes its structure under the good or bad influenc? Prayer, classical music... made water structure beautiful; curses, scandals, some type of hard rock music made its structure terrible. Did you hear that? ...
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!! :rolling: Maybe instead of a warning system, we should just point some giant speakers towards the sea blaring calssical music to avert any future tsunamis.
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Old 01-10-2005, 08:07 PM   #86
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Thank you for your replies!
According to your replies I do not think it is a big problem that I used this thread.



What harm can cause Christianity?
Is there at least one challenge for violence in the New Testament? It's interesting to hear the answer from those who mentioned Crusades.
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But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

Sorry, I see that's already been mentioned. But what's the response?
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May be people reject God and Christ because deeply in the heart they do not want to be accountable to Him? Especially for the wickedness they have done?
Let us think together! :wave:
Maybe people accept God and Christ because deeply in the heart they do not want to be accountable for the wickedness they have done?

Isn't that supposed to be what Christianity offers?
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You are right that you do not need parents discipline anymore but I suppose you are still under somebody's authority, of your husband, or boss, president?
Even earthly authorities keep the order, punishing evil-doers (criminals). Don't you think that the One who gave us life and this place to live on has no right to be accountable and responsible for doing wrong? God wants us to love our neighbour as ourselves. Isn't He just?
No. Any God who could create and disseminate the rabies virus is not just.
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You are right. I believe that God has a personal vendetta against you and that is why it burns when you pee. That girl you were with last night had nothing to do with it.

I believe that everything generally follows cycles. With science we are beginning to understand this. Science doesn't disprove the existance of God, it allows us to understand more about God's creation.

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Harry Fielding Reid, after studying the fault trace of the 1906 earthquake, postulated that the forces causing earthquakes were not close to the earthquake source but very distant. Reid's idea was that these distant forces cause a gradual build up of stress in the earth over tens or hundreds or thousands of years, slowly distorting the earth underneath our feet. Eventually, a pre-existing weakness in the earth--called a fault or a fault zone--can not resist the strain any longer and fails catastrophically. This is something like pulling a rubber band gradually until the band snaps. This theory is known as the "elastic rebound theory."
http://www.crustal.ucsb.edu/ics/unde...o-rebound.html

Bad things happen to people because bad things happen. The tsunami happened because of a gradual build up of stress in the earth that was released underwater. I don't believe that God purposefully creates natural disasters to punish people. I just believe that people intrepret it that way. God cares but he wants us to become self reliant and eventually work out our problems on our own. But if it makes you feel better you can say that God hates asians, and gave you gonorrhea for no other reason than because he is hateful.
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charis,

My own impression is that a theist choice is a weakness. That you are unable or unwilling to take what you see with your own eyes, to think about the world and its people with your own mind and to act taking complete responsibility for your own actions.
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