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dog-on · 11-30-2007, 07:17 AM

Here we have witness, from Tertullian, to the specific text (Gal 2:1) in question:
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/tertullian125.html

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But with regard to the countenance of Peter and the rest of the apostles, he tells us s that "fourteen years after he went up to Jerusalem," in order to confer with them about the rule which he followed in his gospel, lest perchance he should all those years have been running, and be running still, in vain, (which would be the case,) of course, if his preaching of the gospel fell short of their method.

Do you notice something, perhaps a little strange?

I do note that Ireneaus seems to know the canonical version...

Amaleq13 · 11-30-2007, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dog-on

Ask yourself this, why would Paul go ask some guys in Jerusalem if he had been "running in vain" regarding the gospel he supposedly got from Christ himself?

That isn't a difficult question. He did so because his efforts were being opposed by representatives of that very group and, most likely, his converts/potential converts were pointing out that representatives of people they held in high regard were opposing him.

dog-on · 11-30-2007, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Amaleq13

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Originally Posted by dog-on

Ask yourself this, why would Paul go ask some guys in Jerusalem if he had been "running in vain" regarding the gospel he supposedly got from Christ himself?

That isn't a difficult question. He did so because his efforts were being opposed by representatives of that very group and, most likely, his converts/potential converts were pointing out that representatives of people they held in high regard were opposing him.

I see how one could get there in the standard Acts/traditional inspired view of the Apostle, but from Paul himself...I really can't.

spin · 11-30-2007, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben C Smith

Kind of puts a new spin on Christian origins, huh?

Talk about identity theft! Who's this new spin?

Nobody had to put me onto christian origins!

pnis

Amaleq13 · 11-30-2007, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dog-on

I see how one could get there in the standard Acts/traditional inspired view of the Apostle, but from Paul himself...I really can't.

Everything I said comes from Galatians. :huh:

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