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There can be no scientific explanation of the ten plagues because the plagues as described in Exodus is a fabricated story, plain fiction.

You do not have to be a rocket scientist to see the obvious errors in the stories. Let's look at a few: In Exodus 7, Aaron turns his rod into snakes and the magician turn their rods into snakes but Aaron snakes devours those of the magicians. Good job Aaron!!

Next Aaron turns all the rivers, streams, ponds, pools of water and water in all wooden and stone vessels into blood. You must make this action sink in; all water supply is turned to blood. However the most absurd event occurs, the magicians also did the same. How is that possible? Blood into more blood. This is crazy!!

The absurdity continues, Aaron causes Egypt to be infested with frogs and again the dumbest magicians in history also infest Egypt with frogs. Very dumb!! Kill the frogs, stupid!!!

More madness, Aaron causes infestation of lice on livestock and people, and the most bizarre, incredible event occurs, the magicians try to infest Egypt with lice. Very dumb. Kill the lice, stupid.

The credibilty of the Christian Bible is basically zero, the writings have no spiritual value whatsoever. It is time for the Christian Gods to re-inspire some real writers, I personally need a new Bible, the one I have is worthless, no historical, spiritual or scientific value.

Kosh

Well, there's your answer xaxxat, the Israelites left no feces because they were too busy in a pissing match....

But seriously, here is my favorite obvious problem with the Exodus:

So, the plagues were only necessary because God made Pharaoh not listen? Talk about a plot device!

Sven

And it is dishonest to make claim after claim without providing a shred of evidence and references.

And you may note that this isn't that new and controversial at all - there are archeologists with much more minimalist views.

Sven

Which work quite well as long as there should be evidence. May I remind you of the usual creationist complaint about the (supposed) lack of transitional fossils? Why this isn't an argument from silence?

Already addressed. You making up a longer time frame does not change the fact that the text suggests nothing like this.

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The history of Egypt is one of the best supported of any nation on Earth. To suggest that we might lack any knowledge is like saying we lack knowledge of the past ten years of our own country.

Of course there is. If it describes events which should leave evidence and no such evidence can be found, this is a contradiction.

bfniii

when you say excavated, you imply that there is no more excavation or study to be done at these sites which isn't true. it's an ongoing investigation. that is why it is presumptuous to claim that there was no exodus or that israel didn't invade canaan, but was previously sedentary there.



source? what i have seen does not state that.



we've already discussed some of it.



and as we have discussed, there is corroborative evidence that has been found by these people you mention.

Anat

Jericho's destruction was dated by Kenyon to the Middle Bronze Age.

bfniii

in this case, i disagree. i illuminated the hypocrisy of the claim and it's defense.



it's not so much that he makes a mistake. it's that his analysis of the archaeological evidence is not the only analysis available. he is extrapolating conclusions from the available evidence that are not universally agreed upon. furthermore, i have already pointed out that the archaeological enterprise is an ongoing endeavor. it is presumptuous to pronounce sentence when there is so little information at our disposal. it seems that what does exist up to this point does not overtly contradict the biblical stories.

Anat

Either we have been reading different Bibles or looking at different archaeological information. What do you think were the events the biblical authors were claiming for the emergence of Israelite and Judahite settlement?

spin

And confirmed by Italian excavations around six years ago (source: Quaderno di Gerico, v1, 1999, Roma "La Sapienza").

But I guess bfniii hasn't got past Garstang.


spin

bfniii

i agree that the jury is still out but it is starting to line up better than et tell.