demoninho

Ehm, Chili in stead of speculating on the ethymology of the dutch word "zondvloed" opposed to "vloed" and other word games does anyone know about what the original texts say, if a special word is used or not.

§outh§tar

Considering even most apologists concede that the flood had to be a local one, that "little water displacement" is applicable in context.

Unless you want to prove a global flood..

Chili

What the original text says is completely irrelevant if this kind of flood can only happen once in a lifetime for God to be able to make this kind of promise. Real water floods occur and will continue to occur in the world but this kind of flood can only happen once in a person's life.

I would not look for special words but for the right meaning of specific words.

demoninho

Not in a desert...

Your reasoning sounds familiar do you visit any dutch forums as well?

Toto

According to a discussion on another thread in E/C, the Hebrew Bible uses the word mabbul, which is used only for "the" flood. (But where else does the Bible speak about flooding, since it was written by a desert people?)

mabbul (scroll down)

demoninho

Ah thanks,

but I completely disagree with the explanation

A flood is water rising over what is normally a part of the land after the waters have reached the highest point you wouldn't speak of flood anymore (there are distinct words in dutch: ebben and kentering for receding water and the moment between rising and receding water respectively)

Chili

You are right, but would that not be unfair to those desert dwellers? THAT in itself would make God unjust even if the flood is either good or bad.

No I don't. Could you lead me to one?

Kosh

Let us not forget that the Dutch tend be a little obsessive when it comes to flooding....

Freethinking

I understand that you feel it is appalling and I agree to an extent. Politicians are spinning this natural disaster and using horrific events to put themselves in a "good light". Fundmental conservatives who keep pushing people and brainwashing their followers to believe the end is near, have been using the floods in Asia for their own purposes and persuasions - such as selling expensive bibles and getting people to support all kinds of stuff.

Here's a passage from scripture that fundies are using as justification:
Revelation 16:18
Then there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder and a severe earthquake. No earthquake like it has ever occurred since man has been on earth, so tremendous was the quake.

Lugubert

OK, I'll bite, even though I think that people here are intelligent enough to realize that you're joking.

Few etymologic dictionaries are brave enough to trace sin and saint back to Proto-Indo-European. Those that do (e.g. The American Heritage Dictionary of Indo-European roots) tend to take sin from the PIE root *es-, meaning 'to be', and saint from a root *sak- 'to sanctify. Those that don't make it clear that even the immediate ancestors of those words are different.

For Sintflut I might add that the prefix is found in most Germanic languages, giving meanings like 'enormous, complete(ly)': Old English sin(a)-, Gothic sin-, Old Icelandic sî-.

The limbic connection is that Limbo and limbic both are derived from Latin limbus 'edge, verge, fringe'.