Tigers!

You're quite right. God did not send out engraved invitations.

Tigers!

Why does the OT need to say anything about this?

Sven

Then why don't we observe genetic bottlenecks (which happened at the same time in the past) in all species living today?

Apocolips

Fairly simple, God allowed any person into the boat that accepted the idea that a flood was coming. If you ask safety from God, God will provide it. None did. Noah was the second Adam and a precursor to Jesus (the Son of Man, the Son of Noah, Son of Adam, Son of God). That's how the Baptists explained it, and not every Baptist is a dumbass like Fartwell or Robertson.

Maybe that was God's end plan at that time, or maybe the story is made up. But God (in the Bible) gives people choices but people have to decide what is right and wrong. I want to know how a family of eight (Noah, sons and wives) could build a boat the size of the QEII. I will say that if I saw animals not indigeouness (SIC) to my land boarding an Ark, maybe I, the skeptic, would believe that there might be a greater Hand at work.

Or maybe it's all a story.

Senor
(Christian Agnostic)

Thomas II

The logistics do not raise a flag with you? :huh:
A pair of all the animals in the world walking from all the parts of the world towards the ark? Really??
Have you ever been inside a stable?
Did you see any large windows in the ark's design?
Can you imagine the conditions inside of such "ark"?
And do you REALLY think that after 40 days and nights raining the world would be completely covered with water?? Really???
And where did all the water go afterwards? Down the drain??
And what vegetation would be left after such flood?
And what would the tigers, lions,hyenas, leopards,etc, all the carnivors, eat after such flood??

You want me to go on???:huh:

John Kesler

Traditions that develop and reinterpretations of earlier texts are not a reliable source of information about original authorial intent. As an aside, look at what Jesus claims about the preflood world:

Noah's "evangelism" apparently was for nothing, since his contemporaries "knew nothing" about the flood.

Tigers!

Noah was asked by God to be faithful. God didn't promise him that he would necessarily be successful.
I might as well point out that that passage indciates that Christ accepted the flood as a real event.
The fact that the contemporaries "knew nothing" might indicate that they paid no attention, not they weren't told.
As a reasonably contemporary example - Many in Europe were suprised when WWII occured but they had plenty of warning. Apathy, disinteredness etc: can be more soothing/powerful than having to pay attention.

John Kesler

Jesus also believed that demons could possess people (Mark 3:14-15 et al) and that Lot's wife looked back and turned to salt (Luke 17:31-32; cf. Genesis 19:26). He was a product of his time.

Tigers!

Living in time like he did he could hardly avoid being a product of his time.
But your comment may hide more.
Do you thereby believe that anything one believes is because they are a product of their time and does it apply to you and me also?

John Kesler

I don't believe that a woman turned to salt, that demons exist, or that a worldwide flood occurred. My point was that it is understandable that Jesus, living when he did, would believe such things. Just because he believed something doesn't mean that it is true.