The Other Michael

In the absence of any M&PC mods I'll mention that this is looking to me a lot like a BC&H discussion instead of an M&PC thread and you may see one of the mods punting it over to that forum or possibly splitting it.

cheers,
Michael

Mageth

That'd be fine with me. But there's too many logical fallacies (ad homs, poisoning the well, arguments from authority in particular) in BGiC's last post for me to be very interested in responding to it. I think I'm done here for now. Perhaps if the topic generates more comments in another forum I'll jump back in.

Cross Examiner

The Other Michael,
Sure. Naturally, Mageth would continue with the affirmition of his proposition that the Gospels are rightly categorized as 'myth', as a matter of fact, and, since it is his assertion, he has burden of proof. I'm game to that.

Regards,
BGic

Jimmy Higgins

*Terribly off-topic*

Rule #1 in Christian debating. The other guy always has the burden of proof!

Cross Examiner

Jimmy Higgins
Nope. He who asserts backs it up.

Regards,
BGic

Jimmy Higgins

Care to prove that?

Cross Examiner

Jimmy Higgins,
Prove? That's quaint. In a legal action, the plaintiff alleges something (e.g. Mageth's assertions) against the defendant and inherits the burden of proof. If the roles were reversed and I said that no one has walked on the moon, then, guess what? I get the burden of proof. Likewise, Mageth kicked things off by asserting that the Gospels are rightly classified as 'myth', as a matter of fact, and, since this is his assertion, this is his burden. Back it up or pack it up

Regards,
BGic

Howard

Wrong. The burden is on he who makes the claim that something is true. The presumptive position is that something is not true unless shown to be so… unless you’d like to demonstrate to us that the truth claims of the Koran and its 1.5 billion Muslim adherents are wrong.

Cross Examiner

Howard,
Yes, this is a more technically accurate sense of burden of proof. I was running off memory, mea culpa. Nonetheless, since Mageth affirms his proposition that it is true that the Gospels are rightly categorized as 'myth', he still gets burden. No two ways 'round it gents.

Regards,
BGic

Mrhat

myth ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mth)
n.

1.
1. A traditional, typically ancient story dealing with supernatural beings, ancestors, or heroes that serves as a fundamental type in the worldview of a people, as by explaining aspects of the natural world or delineating the psychology, customs, or ideals of society: the myth of Eros and Psyche; a creation myth.

It is more than fair to call them "myths".