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Old 07-06-2004, 09:06 AM   #21
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Keep in mind also that Parker is often described as 'gifted'. Bruce Wayne is just rich. Spiderman could outthink and outpunch and outlast Batman in virtually any situation.
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I voted for Spiderman. Keep in mind that I am not talking about the comic book characters, but the REAL Spiderman and Batman: The 60s TV series.
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Old 07-06-2004, 09:25 AM   #23
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Keep in mind also that Parker is often described as 'gifted'. Bruce Wayne is just rich. Spiderman could outthink and outpunch and outlast Batman in virtually any situation.
Considering that Batman also invented every single one of his gadgets, computers, etc., I'd say he is also gifted, possibly far more so than Parker.
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Old 07-06-2004, 09:30 AM   #24
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I was reading some stuff about the new Batman: Begins stuff on the internet when I suddenly had a thought. Spiderman and Batman are actually pretty similar as they both have an extremely loyal fanbase.
Batman b/c if he could beat a non-mortal in Superman, then I'd surmise he could tackle a fellow human.
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Yes, but I still submit that superman isn't particularly clever or creative. Batman simply out-planned and out-thought him. I'm pretty sure spidey is a lot brighter than superman, and would be far harder to surprise, especially considering his spidey sense. Batman could set up the best ambush ever, and spidey will still feel it coming.

And spidey doesn't have the "achiles heel" to one particular item like superman.

Batman could take him with intense planning and incredible analysis, which is what he does best, but if he doesn't have a good long time to figure out what he's going to do he's hosed. Pretty much the only way batman will win is if he knows far in advance who he's fighting, their weaknesses, etc. such as with superman and the ambush he set for him.
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Old 07-06-2004, 09:52 AM   #26
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Considering that Batman also invented every single one of his gadgets, computers, etc., I'd say he is also gifted, possibly far more so than Parker.
Spiderman: A powerful, versitile adhesive and the technology to deliver it.
Batman: Bat-shark repellent.

Advantage Spiderman.
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Spiderman: A powerful, versitile adhesive and the technology to deliver it.
Batman: Bat-shark repellent.

Advantage Spiderman.
Oh now that's not fair. Batman also invented the computer that could answer absolutely any question ever on crappy little pieces of ticker tape while making clickety noises.
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Old 07-06-2004, 10:28 AM   #28
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I'd be surprised if Batman hasn't built a frickin' anti-everything-Batman-hates bomb and rid the universe of, well, everything, which brings me to a point...

Differences...
8. Spiderman saves people's lives on a regular basis, Batman can care less.

If there's anything that Batman can do to best Spiderman, it would be ruthless enough to take someone hostage (like MJ) to bring him down, not some fancy gadget or some half-ass writer to dumb down his opponent.

That's the problem with all these vs. scenarios, because one character always goes through a process of dumbing down and the other goes through a process of amping up.


It's tough to be unbiased.
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Old 07-06-2004, 01:41 PM   #29
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I voted for Spiderman. Keep in mind that I am not talking about the comic book characters, but the REAL Spiderman and Batman: The 60s TV series.
You said real, and then you went to the old camp TV series that had little in common with the actual comic books....


Everyone who votes for Spiderman is DEAD WRONG. Why?

Batman has beat the shit out of Superman with his bare hands. Multiple times.

Batman singlehandedly devised schemes that took out (within minutes) Superman, Martian Manhunter, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Plastic Man, and Green Lantern. For those of you who do not know what exactly this means:
God power alien, god powerful alien, sea-king with ningh-impregnable skin, demi god, Man who runs at relativistic speeds and can vibrate through walls, unkillable man, most powerful weapon in universe. In about fifteen minutes.

Batman took out, by himself, as a NORMAL HUMAN WITH NO POWERS, four martians (whose only vulnerability is to flame) in less time than it took the above god-powerful beings, included among which are no less than two with HEAT VISION the same number.

Is the most dangerous member of the entire JLA.

Doesn't consider sending a signal to someone's neurons to effectivle give them advanced motor neuron disease cheating.

Beat Superman to a pulp while he was a fifty year old man who had just come out of retirement.

While it has been pointed out that Batman is best when fighting someone who's weakness he knows, it should also be noted that even when he doesn't have a goddamned clue initially he still figures out enough clues to trap and beat his opponents. His will is indomitable. Defeat is NOT in his vocubulary.

What also has been claimed is that Spiderman saves lives and Batman doesn't give a damn. That is a boldfaced LIE. There is no one more dedicated to preserving life, ALL life, than Batman. He has sacrificed much to save lives, and any life he cannot save weighs upon him. He wants a world where there are no more children like him, parents stripped away before a child's eyes in a moment of brutality. Spiderman feels bad about not stopping the guy who killed his uncle.

What should further be of note is that Spiderman's spider-sense is not always active, it does not warn him of everything: he takes hits even when there's time to avoid them. His spider sense only extends so far, and can only give him a bit of a heads up. If Batman prepared an ambush, Spidey is fucked. Royally.

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Keep in mind also that Parker is often described as 'gifted'. Bruce Wayne is just rich. Spiderman could outthink and outpunch and outlast Batman in virtually any situation.
PFFFTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!
Were I drinking any beverage, you'd stand me a knew keyboard. Batman's skills as both a fighter and as a detective/genius are almost without peer--it's why he's able to outfight the entire JLA.

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Eh, i'd still give the 2/3 favor to spidey, but that's just me. I still get annoyed that a lot of people forget that batman is a regular guy who's just well trained and very smart. No superpowers, just some gizmos and brains. Compare that to spidey sense, super-human strength and phenomenal reflexes and superior improvisational fighting, nevermind web tricks, and the favor tips to spidey.
Said regular guy has beat the crap out of people like Superman, Martian Manhunter, Wonder Woman, more than one Green Lantern...the list goes on and on. You make the mistake of underestimating him--his advantage is that he thinks on his feet much better than everyone else, is better trained and uses that training far more often than anyone else, and is willing to do whatever it takes to win--period.

This is a long rant, but today I am in the mood. Shortly I will begin to construct the most ruthlessly brutal D&D character that is still legal, and, while naked, has an AC of 74 and a SR of 41, and a con of about 46. NAKED. Oh, and no epic levels as well. I got put into the "destroy those who oppose me or think that they are capable of greater feats of geekiness than I" on Sunday, and today I get to vent it.
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Old 07-06-2004, 01:42 PM   #30
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Keep in mind also that Parker is often described as 'gifted'. Bruce Wayne is just rich. Spiderman could outthink and outpunch and outlast Batman in virtually any situation.
um... wrong. Wayne/batman is known for being terribly smart, especially in fighting and crime solving areas (he was the brains behind the justice league) and he has also mastered many fighting techniques.
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