James The Least

I wouldn't say our understanding of ancient Hebrew creation myth is "clear," though perhaps we can draw general inferences. But that's irrelevant to the historic Jesus issue anyway since the Jesus mythology shows no signs of being created by Jews, but rather non-Jews and anti-Jews like Mark attempting to write new prophecies by imitating the masters.

James The Least

Because the peasant only existed in their minds, as a theological construct.

James The Least

Exactly. A "spiritual" king who existed in heaven and answered your prayers can never disappoint you, unlike earthly kings.

aa5874

So, did he NOT get the name Jesus from someone else??

Once you admit that Paul never met Jesus then there are TWO fundamental ways he could have gotten the name Jesus and information about the character.

Either orally or by written sources.

The least likely way to obtain the history and name of Jesus is by revelation from the resurrected.

The notion that the supposed Paul KNEW more about Jesus by revelation than his own supposed apostles is rather absurd if Jesus did live.

If Jesus did live and had Apostles then the Apostles would have KNOWN more about Jesus than the supposed Paul.

If Jesus did NOT exist then the Pauline writers could NOT have known anything about Jesus by revelation.

Remarkably, whether or not Jesus existed, Paul could NOT have known about Jesus by revelation.

Revelation is not known to be a credible source for biographies.

youngalexander

Pg18 Pg204-206 a more detailed appraisel of his ideas - generally dismissive.
Pg342, 348 & 357 cites Messiah Myth

outhouse

heres where all mythers fail, WHY?



why use a jewish peasant as a roman god?

aa5874

You have Exposed the dilemma for the HJ theory.

It is most absurd that a DEAD jewish peasant was worshiped as a Roman God.

The Gospels are about the Son of God, the Word that was God, NOT a dead jewish peasant.

James The Least

Thanks. I hadn't heard him mentioned much in relation to DJE as the other prominent mythicists. Thompson seems to avoid the Internet, which is yet another sign of his superior intellect.

James The Least

They wanted something that the Jews had and they didn't: monotheism. Not just that, but a venerated and ancient monotheism. Not only that, but priceless intellectual property in the form of ancient scriptures and prophecies that went back to the creation of the world.

Jesus's financial status was irrelevant to this emerging theology. He was sent by God as a prophet, wasn't recognized as one by the Jews (as prophesied), and was killed by them on Passover (also as prophesied). The only people who acknowledged him as the Messiah was -- surprise! -- the Gentiles. Shocking, huh?

MrMacSon

or, the Pauline content could have been borrowed and altered to align with the canonical gospel stories as they were being written, collated, or re-written.

or, the Pauline content could have been written fully to align with the canonical stores