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Old 11-07-2004, 04:20 PM   #11
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Um, you obviously do not have a good working definition of "persecution".


Okay, so they're trying to impose themselves on marriage and make themselves part of it, even though the Bible defines marriage as the union between a man and a woman (not 2 men or 2 women).



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Shouldn't be according to whom? You? Why do you get to define marriage? Anyway all they are asking for is the right to have hospital visitiations, transfer property, share employee health benefits, and other civil benefits of marriage that have nothing to do with religion.


I didn't define "marriage"... the Bible did. It also defined homosexuality as an abomination (I believe this implies that marriage, as defined by the Bible, should not have homosexuality as a part of it.



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Your response did not address why it is an abomination nor define women's and men's clothes. You at least attempted to justify the silly food laws with vague "health" reasons, you have made no attempt with this silly law. Hows about just admitting it's silly?


I do not know why men dressing in women's clothing (or vice versa) is an abomination, just that the Bible says that it is. How's about just admitting it is you that is "cherry picking?"
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Okay, so they're trying to impose themselves on marriage and make themselves part of it, even though the Bible defines marriage as the union between a man and a woman (not 2 men or 2 women).

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Cite, please.

A number of marriages in the Bible were between one man and multiple women, were they not?
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Oh...the bible defined marriage...

Huh, guess nonchristian cultures don't get married then.
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Okay, so they're trying to impose themselves on marriage and make themselves part of it, even though the Bible defines marriage as the union between a man and a woman (not 2 men or 2 women).
As was pointed out, The Bible is not the law of the US. We have people that get married that are of other religious faiths and other cultures that have different marriage traditions.

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I didn't define "marriage"... the Bible did. It also defined homosexuality as an abomination (I believe this implies that marriage, as defined by the Bible, should not have homosexuality as a part of it.
Not everyone is a Christian and US law should not be based on a single's religion's definition of anything

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I do not know why men dressing in women's clothing (or vice versa) is an abomination, just that the Bible says that it is. How's about just admitting it is you that is "cherry picking?"
The whole topic of this thread is silly Biblical laws so I picked out some silly ones.

Cherry picking refers to picking and choosing which laws one follows or ignores though they claim to adhere to a set of laws as a whole.

I would be cherry picking, for example, if I called myself a "completely law abiding citizen" but chose to ignore traffic laws.
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Just "two (homosexual) men or women" getting married wouldn't affect much. However, if it's ultimately 20,000,000 (homosexual) men or women getting married . . . well, you get my picture. I certainly don't want my social-security (and other) contributions to go for supporting this.
Since male homosexuals statistically have higher incomes than male heterosexuals, male heterosexuals are already getting a free lunch through male homosexuals. Plus there's the fact that in a male homosexual household, both partners are more likely to be working and paying taxes. So you should consider it a boon rather than a detriment.
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I didn't define "marriage"... the Bible did. It also defined homosexuality as an abomination (I believe this implies that marriage, as defined by the Bible, should not have homosexuality as a part of it.
Funny inquisitive. The question was about choosing laws. You say homosexuality is an abomination. Do you eat pork? Do you stone to death a person who touched a menstrating women? Do you kill a slandering son?Hypocrite. :down:
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Fine. More power to them as they attempt explaining this confusion to their children, should they ever (somehow) become parents (i.e., through adoption, a woman having a baby for them, or whatever). :bulb:

Cweb, why do you seem to care so much? :huh:
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Because of the basic premise of equality under the law. That's why. I knew of homosexuality growing up. It didn't kill me. Explaining to do? That's your (collective you) for not tolerating others. It's pure and simple bigotry. That's why.
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Fine. More power to them as they attempt explaining this confusion to their children, should they ever (somehow) become parents (i.e., through adoption, a woman having a baby for them, or whatever). :bulb:
This "confusion" is cultural. You could apply the same logic to interracial marriages in the American South (the few there were) during Jim Crow. many countries now have gay marriages. I ask you for data (hopefully longitudinal studies) showing the the ill effects of same sex parents. Many gay men I know are/will make far better fathers then me.
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Fine. More power to them as they attempt explaining this confusion to their children, should they ever (somehow) become parents (i.e., through adoption, a woman having a baby for them, or whatever). :bulb:

Cweb, why do you seem to care so much? :huh:
What confusion? "You have two parents that love each other and love you and they are the same gender"...wow I am somehow not confused by that. Alot more confusing explaining divorce, remarriage, step siblings, half siblings, etc, IMO.
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