Sheshbazzar

Seriously, You expect anyone to take your long rambling hodge-podge of posts here seriously?
What is it that you intend that your readers here are to become convinced of by serving up these thick slices of mortadella?

Littlejohn

"...You expect anyone to take your long rambling hodge-podge of posts.."
In italian: "lungo, incoerente guazzabuglio di messaggi.."

No, not anyone: only those who believe not blindly and dogmatically in the mythological origin of Jesus of Nazareth! ... If I understand correctly, you are one of these 'dogmatics', which in the long run, are worse than the same dogmatic fideists ! ..

In short, to be more concise, it is easier to convince a fideist who he is a victim of an hallucinating deception, packaged by cynics and counterfeiter fathers over 19 centuries ago, that a mythicist about the fact that his convictions, regarding the inexistence of historical character Jesus of Nazareth, are just 'jokes' to tell at the bar with friends! ...

"...to become convinced of by serving up these thick slices of mortadella.."

I do not well understand your 'slang', however, one thing is certain: these 'thick slices of mortadella' you have them before your eyes, and behind each of them is written: Jesus is mythical, Jesus is mythical ... In short, these 'slices of mortadella' keep you from seeing beyond a 'palm of hand' from your nose!

You have not yet realized that besides you there is nobody else that puts forward your questions, your 'critical' reliefs? ... All this does not mean anything to you? .. Certainly there are skeptics among them, yet none of them want to give up his dignity of thinking being, proposing questions thus silly and childish! ...

To believe that in the first century of our era, it had been possible to 'build' a cult, mythical or not, based on a Jew who ever lived, when even the most foolish among the Jews of the time, it could easily refute the forgers, claiming that such a character does not had never existed, is something bordering on madness, as well as the ridiculous! ....

If the counterfeiters had really wanted to build a cult around a character that does not existed, then they would gone to choose it in the far East, so that NONE could refute them, saying that such a character was non-existent on the historical level! ... I believe that here, in the forum, there are people with quite common-sense able 'capture' everything .... Clearly it is not your case ...


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Iskander

LOL, it sounds really bad in Italian: guazzabuglio!

I too prefer to speak of the bad things that religions can do and concentrate on the interpretation of the holy books. When I read something like the post you are responding to I say, porca miseria, stronzo.


The Catholic Church –like the Muslim mosque today— was in need of reformation and the interpretation of Martin Luther achieved that. I don’t think that mythic propaganda would have succeeded in breaking the temporal power of the church and in removing the ‘keys’ from the hands of the Vatican.


Many rationalists/whatever are like the Catholic Church or the Muslim mosque in their dislike of heretics and in the boldness of their opposition to them.

Littlejohn

I agree completely.

What follows is a brief excerpt by the chapter 30 of the 'Drasha d-Yaya' (Book of John), part doing of the actual Mandaean literature.

There is NO any doubt that for Mandaeans, as well as for the Slavonic version of Josephus, John the Baptist and Jesus of Nazareth were two REAL historical characters in flesh and bones, which marched on the earth about 20 centuries ago.

If it is accepted as a mere hypothesis the circumstance that the forger catho-christian clergy, operating within the confines of the Roman Empire, invented out of whole cloth both the figure of Jesus and the one of John the Baptist, for which an absurd reason the Mandaeans would have had make the same, since they were located OUTSIDE the boundaries of the Empire, and thus protected by the bloody claws of the forger and murderess catho-christian clergy?..Who could force them to do so, if the two over mentioned people they had never existed? ... This is a legitimate, rational question that asks an answer equally rational... What a purpose ignore such a question, in order to avoid a credible response to this? ....

Unfortunately, many atheists have transformed their personal beliefs into real dogmas, which have nothing to envy to the dogmas of fideists! ....

NOTE:

"..Most biblical scholars agree that John baptized Jesus at 'Bethany beyond the Jordan'.."

On this occasion, Jesus also became the 'PARACLETE'... (comforter, counselor).


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Littlejohn

From an italian forum:

Beh.. it is already some thing...

A curiosity: you are in agreement on all or only on certain aspects of my message?


Greetings


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Littlejohn

"..there was a Holy Ghost Bird and a voice from heaven.."

But what a Holy Spirit?? ... Which Bird came from heaven?? ..

This is the 'literary' result of one of the countless and hallucinating historical mystifications made up, probably with a smile on the lips, by cynic counterfeiters who gave birth to catho-christianity! ...

There was indeed a 'bird' (a dove or a turtledove) on the occasion of the baptism of Jesus, but it was the case of a 'bird' suddenly LAUNCHED IN AIR by the mother of Jesus, ie the Virgin Mary, probably for the purpose of 'good omen'.. (as it happened when she wanted to give birth to her twins, Jesus and Judas Thomas, in a cave!)

In the moment when Mary threw the bird into the air, she uttered a phrase of self-comfort, which, ad-hoc distorted, was placed, nothing less, in the 'mouth' of God himself, on the part of forger 'evangelists'! .. .


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Duke Leto

How about a new thread topic:

The historical Jesus is HYSTERICAL!

We could make a list of Jesus' greatest one liners and knock-knock jokes, or his entire bevy of "A Priest of Jupiter, a Zoroastrian Minister, and a Sadducee" stories.

Littlejohn

"..or his entire bevy of "A Priest of Jupiter, a Zoroastrian Minister, and a Sadducee" stories..."

I will also add a list of all the skeptics that, until about the middle of 1800, argued that the city of Troy simply had been a myth invented by Homer ... Probably still today there are 'experts' critics which, with conviction, they sustain such a thing .. All this is normal, because it does part of the logic by those trying to have fun like they can ....

I thought the one I posted until today it was enough to do POSITIVELY reflect even the most foolish among those who read me ... However I see that I was wrong .... Good luck! ..


PS: why "We could make a list of.."?.... You mean like you there are many here in the forum? ..


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Littlejohn

Sorry..

and the 'confirmation' ('cresima' in italian), what it represents for french Catholics? ..

(you know how confirmation is delivered to the young faithful catholics?..)


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