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aa5874 · 04-08-2009, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dog-on

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4They were talking with each other about everything that had happened. 15As they talked and discussed these things with each other, Jesus himself came up and walked along with them; 16but they were kept from recognizing him.

Seems someone already though of that...

The passage in the NT is most laughable. How can non-recognotion be regarded as evidence of seeing Jesus.

sbaii · 04-09-2009, 10:03 AM

aa5874 wrote:But, a supernatural god-man did not exist in the first century. People living in the 1st century in Judaea, between 15th year of the reign of Tiberius and the death of Nero, would have immediately known that the writer Paul was writing fiction.
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I don't know if anyone has quoted this site. I think it has interesting information some of which I have seen elsewhere.

http://www.geocities.com/inquisitive79/refute5.html

Especially starting with the paragraph that begins
"... Secondly, the idea arose that Jesus had been executed on the eve of Passover..."

Toto · 04-09-2009, 12:54 PM

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Secondly, the idea arose that Jesus had been executed on the eve of Passover. This belief is apparently based on Yeishu's execution. Passover occurs at the time of the Vernal Equinox, an event considered important by astrologers during the Roman Empire. The astrologers thought of this time as the time of the crossing of two astrological celestial circles, and this event was symbolized by a cross. Thus there was a belief that Jesus had died on "the cross." The misunderstanding of this term by those who were not initiated into the astrological cults, was another factor contributing to the belief that Jesus was crucified. In one of the earliest Christian documents (the Teaching of the Twelve Apostles) there is no mention of Jesus being crucified yet the sign of a cross in the sky is used to represent Jesus's coming. It should be noted that the center of astrological superstition in the Roman Empire was the city of Tarsus in Asia Minor - the place where the legendary missionary Paul came from. The idea that a special star had heralded the birth of Jesus, and that a solar eclipse occurred at his death, is typical of Tarsian astrological superstition.

Interesting, plausible even, but one would like some references.

This appears to be from a copy of "REFUTING MISSIONARIES" by "Hayyim ben Yehoshua."

angelo · 04-09-2009, 11:59 PM

References would be nice, but very interesting reading nevertheless.

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04-09-2009, 10:03 AM	#202
sbaii Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: big bad Deetroit Posts: 2,850	aa5874 wrote:But, a supernatural god-man did not exist in the first century. People living in the 1st century in Judaea, between 15th year of the reign of Tiberius and the death of Nero, would have immediately known that the writer Paul was writing fiction. __________________________________________________ __ I don't know if anyone has quoted this site. I think it has interesting information some of which I have seen elsewhere. http://www.geocities.com/inquisitive79/refute5.html Especially starting with the paragraph that begins "... Secondly, the idea arose that Jesus had been executed on the eve of Passover..."

04-09-2009, 11:59 PM	#204
angelo Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 5,706	References would be nice, but very interesting reading nevertheless.

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