Howard

I would suggest that a great deal of what we know, or think we know, comes not from our own experiences but from the experience and knowledge of others. Is reading that Antarctica is cold as hell the same as experiencing it? No. But I still believe it’s true.

Albert Cipriani

Wrong! Do you really intend to argue that reading is a non-experience?

Of course, reading about being cold is different than experiencing the cold is different than remembering the cold. But just cuz all these experiences of cold are not identical experiences does not mean that they are not all experiences. With that kind of sloppy thinking, next you will argue that my brother isn’t my brother because he isn’t my identical-twin brother. Geez, Albert the Traditional Catholic

Darth Dane

It is an experience, everything is, but you won't get drunk on the word 'wine'

So while you can experience other's account of being drunk on wine, you will not know what it means to be drunk, unless you become drunk, and then you will only know what it means for you to get drunk


You must be your experience in order to know

Sven

Sounds like theistic definition of god No. 401.

premjan

Don't see why this is true. God could be like a person, with a nervous system. Then only the nerves are capable of carrying sensation, so it would be the nervous system that would do the experiencing, but the entire body would still be God's.

Howard

For chrissake Albert, chill out.

Technically speaking, everything is an experience, even being in a coma. But reading or hearing about something is hardly the same as directly experiencing it.

Bye now, and give my best to your brother.

Howard, the Traditional non-Traditionalist

Jade

All right, folks. I don't see much EoG content here, or even much content at all. Unless the OP writer can explain how this is at all relevant to EoG, and maybe present some sort of argument in that vein, this is ~E~bound...

Darth Dane

If the rationale of the OP is correct;

If anyone claims they know God:

To know God is to be God


So if you wanna experience what God is, you must become God

To know what Life is, you must be life

To know Reality, you must be reality

To know is to be


And no one can do this for you, you have to do this on your own



A small question:


Do you know your self?

To know your self, all of the unconscious parts must become conscious

Otherwise, you would only know part of your self



What is life worth if you don't know who lives it?

What is knowledge worth if you don't know who knows?

Jade

So, Darth, if I wanted to know what you were talking about, would I have to be you, or would I have to 'be' what you are talking about?

Darth Dane

If I am talking about a flower, you would have to be a flower to know if what I say about the flower is true, you don't have to be me, unless of course if you wanna 'know' me!

If I talk about me, then of course you would have to be me

If I said a wine tastes like X, then it is a question of how you define x

If I say sweet, you may say sour, the wine doesn't change because of this, the wine is what the wine is