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Old 08-31-2005, 08:10 PM   #11
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Andrew: "a/ IMHO errors in using ones notes are much more likely when the original is not available for checking points where ones notes are ambiguous."

In my opinion the author of "Luke" was not particularly fussy about getting the details he borrowed from others correct. Slap dash sort of attitude.
For example when copying from "Mark" he changes, for no reason apparent to me, "Mark" 9.2 "6 days'' to "about 8 days'' at "Luke" 9.28.
Or the 3 slightly different versions of Paul's alleged vision in Acts. He doesn't seem to worry about being consistent even within his own stories.
Or the different order of the temptations as compared to "Matthew"...someone varied from someone else for some idiosyncratic reason.

Consistency, compared to other sources, is not a strong point, of the gospels, they feel free to change events and the [sacred] words of JC for their own reasons.

Only a feeling of course but it would explain his variations from source Josephus without having to speculate that he heard, rather than read or even had a copy of, Josephus.

Which would impact on the speculated date of writing.
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This, the story of the precocious child who dazzles the elders, is folklore that was in the air at the time. It's interesting that Josephus should attribute it to himself, thus becoming part myth. It's probably not the only apocryphal tale Josephus tells about himself.

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What method or information did you use to make the determination that the story was a folklore?

It is a matter of concern to me when persons refute events that authors write about themselves but the authors still maintain credibilty.
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:38 PM   #13
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Please mind the dates on threads, and start new ones if months and years have passed. (I for one am certain that I don't know what I was talking about back then, off hand. For what it's worth, "defending" it doesn't interest me now.)

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Old 12-13-2006, 08:45 PM   #14
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Of course, Luke could hardly have borrowed the story from Josephus , as Jesus was only 12 , not 14, when he astounded his elders.
But regardless of the age of the so-called Jesus, he was never schooled, or should I say, Jesus was supposed to be illiterate, unless his learning was miraculous.

The story appears to be fictitious and his age of 12 may be linked to the zodiac.

John 7:15, And the Jews marvelled saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?
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