mung bean

Well, I thought teh vids were better than her arguments.
Mind you if she's gonna claim to be a stripper she oughta provide pics.
We're into evidence here. No unsupported assertions allowed.

Nimi Isis

Didn't say they don't test I said study, the experiment is focused and research done around the test group.

'CARS' Imaging Reveals Clues To Myelin Damage

They don't know but there not looking at aging there looking for a pathway.

I don't know what the cause is but I know theres a cause and they'll find it sometime.

Age doesn't cause wrinkles chronological aging, repeating squinting or scrunching up other parts of your face, gravity, sun exposure, increases or decreases in hormone levels and a variety of others do.

And to the future question of what causes chronological aging

Chronological aging

The particularly important causes of chronological aging of human skin likely vary among a population of elderly humans, including such factors as diet, sun exposure, and other environmental factors. In general, though, we believe that chronological skin aging is due to activation of the mitogen-activated pathways (MAPs) and the stress-activated pathways (SAPs).

mung bean

Wrong. Control groups are monitored just as carefully as the test subjects over the same time frame. They have to be to provide an effective control.

deadman_932

Sorry, Nimi -- stick to whatever else it is that you do and stay away from science. You have no clue.

I am going to repeat this one more time, so maybe it sinks in : there is an incontrovertible statistical correllation between aging and decreasing cognitive functions. (NOTE: this does not mean it is INEVITABLE, but that it is a statistical likelihood as everyone grows older...I don't even think you understand what I meant when I said this previously) Your "boy" Elijah made the claim that you get SMARTER inevitably as you grow older. This is simply false. You weigh in with claims you can't even begin to back up. You claimed that NO studies are done on undiseased seniors.

I gave you studies on undiseased age cohort studies and the fact is that the testing and establishment of a baseline control group means testing and study of that group. You then repeat your claim that NO studies are done.

I say that demyelinization is correllated with aging, and it is. It is considered a precursor to many age-associated CNS problems. The chemical pathways leading to increased myelination via Ca ions are correllated with and affected by aging. Demyelination and aging go hand-in-hand statistically and in mounds of studies. The age-associated decrease in myelinization and it's effects on the CNS is not a guess.

I mention that aging is correllated with wrinkling ...

so YOU post up some patent page and YOU say above that "chronological age" ( look that term "chronological" up, punkin') DOES cause wrinkling :
(do you even read what you paste up, or what? ), and you cite a product PATENT page, not an actual study?

I don't know why on earth you're playing games, but knock it off. Better yet, I'll just ignore you since I see no purpose in dealing with this level of sheer fraud and poseur-ship.

Age and loss of cognitive functions are intimately related, correllated. This is what I said. This is what you chose to argue against using terms you don't understand and claims you can't back. Your ...well, I won't say it's stupidity because I doubt you even know what you posted up...your foolishness in what you post up is more than enough for me to say that you and your "boy" are well-matched. Have a nice day.

Jo

This is not a topic up for argument when relating to cognitive abilities and aging, therefore the following information:

Glass, J. M., Schumacher, E. H., Lauber, E. J., Zurbriigen, E. L., Gmeindl, L., Kieras, D. E., & Meyer, D. E. (2000). Aging and the Psychological Refractory Period: Task-Coordination Strategies in Young and Old Adults. Psychology and Aging, 15, 571-595.

"Therefore, impairment in dual-task performance with age stems from the slowing performance for the component tasks, as well as from slowing of processes that are necessary to coordinate the component tasks." (p. 572)

The article goes even more indepth into related research. Suffice to say, longevity is not an indicator of intelligence.

Jo

Hawt and funny subverts in the face of misinformed and silly.

Faid

Elijah,

I have explained my point to you twice- the last time was there in the post you quoted. Why you refuse to address or even acknowledge it is beyond me- I don't think I need to bother anymore, though. Instead, I will tell you a story:
The story of Tithonus.

Tithonus was the son of Laomedon of Troy: He was so handsome and strong, that Eos, goddess of the dawn, took him as her lover. She loved him so much that she could not bear ever parting from him; but since he was only a mortal and would eventually die, she knew she had to.
Desperate, she turned to Zeus, father of the gods, and asked him to grant Tithonus immortality, and let him live beside her for eternity.
Zeus granted her request: But that was the start of endless grief for Eos. Because, although she had asked for immortality, she forgot to ask for eternal youth.
As the years passed, Tithonus started aging. His youth was gone, his wit and strength diminished, his once keen hearing and sight failed him. He became a wrinkled old man; but still Eos stayed at his side.
Then many more years passed, and Tithonus would not die- but kept aging. He aged as no mortal had ever aged: His body shrinked and dwindled, his limbs became slim and crooked, his face crumbled in wrinkles, his skin streched thin over withered bone... But he kept living. Pretty soon (as gods count time) he could neither walk nor stand, and crawled helplessly. He could not even speak with his deformed mouth, to beg for Death to take him.
In her desperation, Eos turned to Zeus again, and asked him to save Tithonus from his torment, even if that meant parting with him forever. But the gift of immortality could not be taken back, and Tithonus could not become mortal man again; so kind Zeus, to ease Tithonus' suffering, turned him into an insect: The cicada.
Round my parts, during summer -the season of joy and youth- you can listen to the song of this insect that used to be a man, mourning for his lost beauty and vigour.



Soooo... What does that story tell us? Not much, really: mostly that I kind of like it, and also that I am probably one glass of wine over my daily limit. Oh: and also that people have been thinking of old age and its effects on a person, and extrapolating that to the future, way WAY before you and me had this conversation on the internets.

xaxxat

And they came up with "We've got to kill another goat because sky-daddy is pissed off again"?

Cynthia of Syracuse

Coragyps may not be a mod here, but the warning is right on. Namecalling, personal comments, snide remarks and handwaving do nothing to promote discussion and need to stop. Stick to the topic and leave the snark at home.