stephan huller

But this is a stupid thread. It is misleading and a trojan horse for your usual idiotic points. It seems we have spent 470 posts and about five ------ participants still don't know that therapeutai derives from a word whose principal meaning is not to heal but to attend and to serve. The usual verb for 'to heal' is iaomai. This is so fucking stupid. I could have a better conversation with chimpanzees

mountainman

See post #468 above.

Sheshbazzar

Yours is a stupid reply. The Hebrews WERE NOT SPEAKING GREEK when the Torah was composed.
And they didn't need Greek to understand their own language and writing, which is what you are here attempting to imply.

Therapeutai is Greek word that emerged in ancient pagan Greek literature. It is a pagan term that has no proper place in discussing the religion of the Hebrews.
About on the par with claiming that Yahweh Elohim is really the same as Theos Iupater.

stephan huller

Do you know that (1) here means principal meaning and (2) means derived or secondary meaning? Do you know 1 comes before 2?

stephan huller

So what? What does any of this have to do with anything? Jews have spoken any number of languages. What on earth is the point? That only Hebrew is pure and any ideas expressed in Greek are corrupt? Your nuts. What is it with you and Hebrew?

stephan huller

Oh so it's the Bible and the Bible trumps all other attestations of Greek? This is so moronic I am speechless.

mountainman

The New Testament was supposedly authored in Greek somewhere in antiquity. See Vaticanus.

It's part of the attestations to therapeuō and its derivatives (including therapeutai).

The therapeutae in antiquity appear to have held a great importance to the Gospel authors and Eusebius.

They have been mooted until only recently as the "Missing Link" to the Apostolic Age for Heaven's Fucking Sake.

But well before the NT authors did their thing the therapeutae in antiquity BCE appear to have held a great importance to the Greek classical tradition - specifically the discipline of medicine.

Have you read to your son yet the gPeter where the cross walks and talks?

stephan huller

Ok this is it. I can't take any more life in the twilight zone. I haven't done a detailed study or anything but from a cursory examination (done in the last two minutes) in the New Testament Greek iaomai can be argued to be used in the sense of "to heal" and therapeuo more often that not means "to cure." When a blind man is made to see, he is cured not healed. Elijah heals (iaomai) the broken altar which is representative of Israel. And Jesus cures (therapeuo) the women of evil spirits. In the same way, in Philo the words of the Jewish therapeutai are said to cure the soul of the listener from its passions.

Sheshbazzar

I am one. For the religion of Hebrews, The Hebrew language and Tanaka is the standard. NOT the LXX Greek.

The sacred ideas of The Hebrew religion and the Tanaka certainly may be expressed in Greek with careful word choices that need not to be cribbed from ancient Greek pagan philosophy and its ancient pagan demon religions .

Just as in English, or in any other language there is no driving need to engage in this blatant Hellenization.
I would think that a person as educated as you are, should be aware of what Hellenization is, and how to avoid it if you so chose to.
But it is so much easier to allow the Church to put HER pagan derived terms into your mouth. The wine of Her fornications.

stephan huller

One last time. In the beginning therapeuo meant to serve a superior. It came to mean to heal or cure and not all people called therapeutai were 'healers' but all were 'attendants' of a god. Got it? Now can we finally shut down this idiotic thread? Probably not.