Queen of Swords

"Except my own privacy, which is why I won't communicate directly with you. I'll just leave you various sets of ancient writings which contradict themselves at some times and reality at other times. Oh, and then I'll send people to preach to you. They'll contradict each other at some times and the writings at other times. But hey, from this garbled mess, I expect you to deduce that I love you! Or else I'll torture you for eternity."

"I might have saved you from the sin of using the brain that I gave you, but I'll still make sure you're endlessly screaming in agony unless you tell me what a fantastic person I am. Every day."

Corona688

*snerk* Funny, but remember, not all religion is fundamentalist christianity. It might be something more like deism. Yes, it does. The question is, I suppose, whether one can be an atheist and still believe in a "higher power". It seems a mite contradictory to me to say that
1) there is no "higher power"
2) nature is a "higher power"

but I'm probably misunderstanding your view.

Agnostic Theist

Just to be sure, you guys are aware that my last post was a joke. Just thought I'd check after those two rebuttals.

Anyway, to make you feel better, I'll flip the coin

Christian sayings and what they mean

God is love = God will rape you shitless, metaphorically and maybe literally

God is a shepherd caring for his flock = You think for yourself and that's a fuck off cliff you'll be walking off.

God will spend all His time looking for one lost sheep, etc = Not even God wants an ass kisser

Jesus was white! = It's twue. Jesus was always white, no weally, he was white as white can be

The Bible is the word of God = And He's kept that joke up for a long time!

Queen of Swords

I was wondering why a poster propounding a theistic point of view would call himself "Agnostic Beast".

Agnostic Theist

Well, I can't say about the Beast part, but you'll be amazed at the reactions of some people when you tell them it relates to the beast(s) of Revelations.

I'm an agnostic theist, but 'beast' sounds better than 'theist', don't ya think?


On the subject, I wonder how long before someone relates the tsunami to 'the beast of the sea'?

Note: Must re-research that bit of the Bible.

g-21-lto

How exactly was this "power higher than themselves" phrased? Something more physically powerful than humanity? More morally upright? Supernatural? Most if not all atheists would deny the supernatural. The possibility of a physically superior species exists. "Morally superior" 's definition is in doubt, but that could be possible as well without the "superior" being or race being supernatural.
If you believe in a higher power, then why don't you believe in Allah? Why does believing in a "higher power" necessitate belief in any one specific higher power?
Usually the arguments rely as well on the idea that the Bible's accuracy can't be verified enough, there are internal contradictions, etc.
I assume you're talking about a supernatural god-like "higher power" now. Atheists don't believe in one. As for the possibility of a physically superior species, I don't think that can be ruled out but I don't believe in any particular species. (The martians...no...the venusians!)
We don't believe in the supernatural, therefore a supernatural god as a "higher power" is out. The possibility of a being physically superior to humanity exists, however.