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Toto · 09-10-2003, 12:42 AM

This looks interesting, not that I need to spend more money at Amazon:

Lost Christianities: The Battle for Scripture and Truth in the Early Church. by Bart D. Ehrman

From the publisher:

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. . . . . LOST CHRISTIANITIES is broken down into three major parts. The first, �Forgeries and Discoveries,� looks at several literary texts, from a legendary account of Thecla, a female companion of the apostle Paul to a Gospel claiming to be written by Judas Thomas, supposedly Jesus� twin brother. The second, �Orthodoxies and Heresies,� considers broad social phenomena including groups such as the Jewish-Christian Ebionites to �Gnostics.� And finally, �Winners and Losers,� which considers the conflicts that raged amongst the different groups which eventually led to the twenty-seven books taken to be sacred, inspired, and authoritative.

The implications for modern-day Christianity are astounding. Had the New Testament taken a different form, it is possible the people in the Western world might still be worshipping the ancient gods of Greece and Rome. . . .

Roger Pearse · 09-10-2003, 05:45 AM

Does anyone know if Bart Ehrmann is in fact Jewish?

All the best,

Roger Pearse

demoninho · 09-10-2003, 06:31 AM

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Does anyone know if Bart Ehrmann is in fact Jewish?

Does it matter?

Anyway Ehrmann sounds german and not yiddish but that's just a feeling, yiddish names often seem to have plants in them and maybe man instead of mann

Toto · 09-10-2003, 10:24 AM

My mistake, I spelled his name with an extra 'n' in the subject, and I can't correct that.

I have no idea what his religious affiliation is (if any), and it is not mentioned here or here.

Roger Pearse · 09-10-2003, 12:26 PM

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Does it matter?

It might, in view of his works, which seem to be attempts to rewrite the history of early Christianity, and create new orthodoxy. I'd think prefer to know, if the ground of it all is something other than gentile irreverence for the religion of their fathers.

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Anyway Ehrmann sounds german and not yiddish but that's just a feeling, yiddish names often seem to have plants in them and maybe man instead of mann

I had the question somewhat forcibly brought to my attention recently, in slightly surreal circumstances, and wondered if anyone knew.

All the best,

Roger Pearse

Toto · 09-10-2003, 12:50 PM

How would you know what the religion of his fathers was, and if he is acting out of irreverence or not?

Steven Carr · 09-10-2003, 03:57 PM

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Originally posted by Roger Pearse
Does anyone know if Bart Ehrmann is in fact Jewish?

How many Jews go to Wheaton College?

Toto · 09-10-2003, 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by Steven Carr
How many Jews go to Wheaton College?

I guess I missed the obvious

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Academic achievement. Christian commitment. Leadership and servanthood. These are the essential ingredients in a Wheaton education. Generally recognized as a leading institution among evangelical Christian colleges, Wheaton is committed to the idea that "all truth is God's truth."

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Wheaton's 30,000 alumni include some of the leading contributors to evangelism and contemporary Christian thought--people like Billy and Ruth Bell Graham; Jim Elliot, the martyred missionary whose testimony has influenced thousands of lives; author and speaker Elisabeth Elliot; Ken Taylor, author of The Living Bible; author and theologian Carl F .H. Henry; Latin American theologian Rene Padilla; and author and youth speaker Josh McDowell. Among these alumni are nearly 2,000 missionaries and 1,500 ministers.

Vorkosigan · 09-10-2003, 04:16 PM

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It might, in view of his works, which seem to be attempts to rewrite the history of early Christianity, and create new orthodoxy. I'd think prefer to know, if the ground of it all is something other than gentile irreverence for the religion of their fathers.

Ehrman is a major figure in the field; his Intro work is excellent. He is, AFAIK, an atheist. Since atheism entails no position with respect to early Christianity, it is difficult to see how that affects his work.

Vorkosigan

Steven Carr · 09-10-2003, 04:21 PM

I find it hard to believe that Ehrman is an atheist.....

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09-10-2003, 05:45 AM	#2
Roger Pearse Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: N/A Posts: 4,370	Does anyone know if Bart Ehrmann is in fact Jewish? All the best, Roger Pearse

09-10-2003, 10:24 AM	#4
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	My mistake, I spelled his name with an extra 'n' in the subject, and I can't correct that. I have no idea what his religious affiliation is (if any), and it is not mentioned here or here.

09-10-2003, 12:50 PM	#6
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	How would you know what the religion of his fathers was, and if he is acting out of irreverence or not?

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Steven Carr Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: England Posts: 5,629	I find it hard to believe that Ehrman is an atheist.....

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