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aeebee50 · 10-01-2012, 05:48 AM

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Interesting possibility. Google search brings up several instances of it as a sermon topic &/or Christian website topic.

In how many of these sermons do the pigs survive, as in the Spanish video version, that may well have been cleaned up to remove the views of two pigs being eaten? The death of pigs is part of the traditional version, that doesn't accord with Paul's meaning, nor even with the erroneous interpretation that almost all preachers give it.

In watching the early videos on youtube in the third attack on the third pig's brick home, the disguise came out with the wolf not having a big nose. Soon, the disguise changed to include a large nose and the voice to sound like a Hebrew salesman. This is the same in the Spanish version which must be around 1934.

sotto voce · 10-01-2012, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Saramago

Interesting possibility. Google search brings up several instances of it as a sermon topic &/or Christian website topic.

In how many of these sermons do the pigs survive, as in the Spanish video version, that may well have been cleaned up to remove the views of two pigs being eaten? The death of pigs is part of the traditional version, that doesn't accord with Paul's meaning, nor even with the erroneous interpretation that almost all preachers give it.

In watching the early videos on youtube in the third attack on the third pig's brick home, the disguise came out with the wolf not having a big nose. Soon, the disguise changed to include a large nose and the voice to sound like a Hebrew salesman. This is the same in the Spanish version which must be around 1934.

There is some evidence that anti-semitism is still endemic in Spain, but this aspect is not essential to the fairy tale, and hardly relevant to 1 Cor. The original, afaik, is that the two pigs are eaten by the wolf, whereas in this version, they escape to the house of the third, which is far less visually frightening than their live consumption. So I don't think that this video represents the original 19th century tale, which does not match the Pauline text.

aeebee50 · 10-02-2012, 04:36 AM

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In watching the early videos on youtube in the third attack on the third pig's brick home, the disguise came out with the wolf not having a big nose. Soon, the disguise changed to include a large nose and the voice to sound like a Hebrew salesman. This is the same in the Spanish version which must be around 1934.

There is some evidence that anti-semitism is still endemic in Spain, but this aspect is not essential to the fairy tale, and hardly relevant to 1 Cor. The original, afaik, is that the two pigs are eaten by the wolf, whereas in this version, they escape to the house of the third, which is far less visually frightening than their live consumption. So I don't think that this video represents the original 19th century tale, which does not match the Pauline text.

I did not know Spain was anti-Semitic. Only thing I can think of is Paul was trying to build a solid foundation like in the video.

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