Bumble Bee Tuna

You told us how the words from the torah are mapped to the rings. What you haven't told us is how you get dots from those words.

Chuck

There's this great episode of "South Park" with a scientist. I will quote an excerpt:

Dilandau

Well, Southpark is for those, who cant extrapolate, how the dots are drawn. Indeed I am watching Southpark sometimes.

On the page the kabbalistic tradition of Gematria is described and that a hebrew word has a numerical value and how this value is calculated. Just highlight any word in the "circular map", that has the value that you are looking for. The triangle f.e. appears from marking every word that has the value 666. clear? how come this was not clear until now? didn't you read through the entire page? what did you miss where exactly?

MrFrosty

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Corona688

How exactly does the existence of patterns in a book prove anything other than the book contains words written in a language?

I mean, it's a freaking book. Of course it has patterns, if it was pure random words then WE COULDN'T READ IT. If it didn't have a pattern, it wouldn't be language.

You can make these fancy "word diagrams" from anything at all, from the Bible to the Torah to A History of Concrete, because they all use languages, and thus all have patterns in words. What is this supposed to prove, again?

Dilandau

Corona, it's an interesting idea, that the pictures are not a feature of the torah but a feature of language in general. However this needs a proof because such a proof would be benefical to science, especially to linguistics. Until today nobody has proven such. Written language information can be distincted from chaotic information by very complicated algorythms and a huge ammount of computer utilisation (related: the voynich manuscript), but until yet nobody has proven the general presence of simple geometric shapes being typical for language. Consider, the Hitomi-Function is esay!


Here is more information for you:

from: http://otaku.onlinehome.de/gematria.html

Torah Hitomi-Function Myths and Facts

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1: Doesn't it work with any book?

Since the Biblecode people have found out, that 'secret words' can be found in any book, making the Biblecode very unspecial. The Hitomi-Function is based on strict and traditional features of the hebrew alfabet. While Biblecode allows a practically unlimited number of variants, Hitomi-Function - without very modified parameters - allows only about 1000 variants. The most variants of these 1000 do not show any significant picture, not even close. Certain variants of the little rest, that do show pictures, are those which involve numbers, that are pertinent, i.e. 666. Any of the few working values plays a clear role in the Torah-Cosmos. It is yet unproven that relevant or relevant looking pictures (this means non-chaotic) can be made from an other text than from the Torah. Maybe other ancient texts do also contain pictures, which are ciphered by a similar method. Maybe relevant looking pictures can be made from any text by a similar method, but there is going to be allways the difference between true relevance (like in the case of the Torah for example) and relevant looking.

Please see the bottom of the page in the link for answers on common questions before you go on with replieing here.

Dilandau

The "star chart" was made by the computer program FROM the Genesis.

Corona688

You have not demonstrated that they're anything else, either. You've just chosen the explanation you happen to like the most.

Besides:

You've just proven me right.

Dilandau

What else can it be? I am awaiting your orders.

By "based on features of the hebrew alfabet" I mean it can only be made with the hebrew alfabet, because there the value of a letter is strictly defined. The pictures in shape and figure are a feature of the Genesis individually. Letters ARE the jewish way of writing numbers and of counting. I know only greek and some latin to particularly have a similar clear gematria, but there is no tradition behind them as behind the hebrew letters. If you want to find pictures in just any book, you would need to find or define a relyable gematria for them first. By the way, recently someone has shown that Dante's Divine Comedy is based on Mathematics and Tarot, especially on the Mathematics and Astrology of the Genesis.

I am awaiting your orders.

MrFrosty

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