BadBadBad

Then what are we talking about? The OP is what does it mean to feel God in your life. Did you just want to preach to me the pitiful atheist who you see secretly searching for real answers?

Nope, I'm not looking for anything. Sell your snake oil elsewhere.

Make some sense out of this for me. This is mumbo jumbo gobbledy goop. Why don't we start with your few basic truths. Oh and don't leave out the proof that these are in fact truth. Then finally, maybe you can have something to say about the OP.

orpheus last chant

{Edit}. Thanks for the christian and humanist luuuuv just oozing out of your post.

You seem to think that we atheists are somehow not allowed to have a philosophy. Just because we hold rationality to be a tool and a guide, does not mean we worship it.
It's a tool. We are not robots. We need philosophy for morality, and aesthetics and logic. We can let outselves enjoy aesthetic beauty, and even hold a practical philosophy. I can be a practical pagan, even if I don't believe in spirituality. Only for the beauty of the rituals, and a reason to unite people. Even if it is most likely false, and I know it. Just because I enjoy it.

Being an atheist does not prevent me from makeing, playing and enjoying music. This is what I'll be doing as a job, and I don't need god, or souls or any other folly to make people happy for a while, and transmit feelings. Music and art is beyond rationality, and you seem to miss it entirely! And on purpose, but I seem to miss the point. I don't need to prove feelings, towards anything!

Heh, don't be silly. If I ever use divine, it will surely not be reffering to your God. Bhuddha forbit !




Even if the mechanism is in it's entirety material and a process envolving chemicals,...

it doesn't make it any less fun!

I can theorise music for you. I learn a lot of that in music school. The acoustics, the rules, the definitions...

... it doesn't make music any less emotional or enjoyable or real.


I think I know what you want to prove. Let me take a guess:

Athiest: Ooooh, pretty little flower.

Christian: A--HA! Explain yourself, atheist! Rationalise THAT if you can.

Atheist: Well, this is a tulip. It's 20 cm tall, and...

Christian: Oh, don't hide from this one. Explain how you atheist dare to act all mystically towards a flower. You ain't suppose to do that!

Athiest: Oh, this little flower inspires me. It reminds me of the frailty of life, and how it struggles etc. etc.

Christian: Oh no you don't. Explain it RATIONALLY.

A: But it's about feelings. I don't have to explain anything.

C: There you go. If you don't have to prove the feeling of fuzzyness for flowers, than I can claim fuzziness for proving God. Therefore, God exists.

Scary Mary

Well said, orpheus. You've hit the nail squarely on the head.

Berachah

Ease back on the throttle buddy, no ones insisting on anything.
I'm doing a study (part biblical course) and seeing as you have this question about discerning God, maybe you can help me out.

You have no interest in God, in fact you don't believe He exists, right?
How about I pray for you and we pick this matter up at the end of the month again? The Bible says God reveals Himself to those that want nothing to do with Him. So you are like a test.
If you are right and God does not exist.....you will experience nothing.
If I am right and God does exist, He will reveal Himself to you.
How about it..........?
But remember, the kingdom of God is within.

Stacey Melissa

Where does it say that? That would be a very useful passage for another debate I am engaged in.

Berachah

Isaiah 65:1

Stacey Melissa

Thank you much!

jerriot

The nearest I have come to a god feeling is that if there is a god it is the universe, which has always existed and always will exist. However if the species homo sapiens continues to mess up its home place it will probably become extinct along with other species that became incompatible to the universe. (I wonder if the universe provides a heaven for extinct species?)

BadBadBad

Not all Christians insist. Of course that would be rude. They just remind you to believe what they believe ... or else. I have to presume that you would be polite and only give me those two options implicitly. Others have no qualms about being rude for God.

I don't have any questions about God. This thread is about the silliness of what it means to you to feel a non-existent God in your life.

I have no intererst in the IPU, and I don't believe he exists.

All you've done so far is preach to me. That's really just wasted breath. If you're interested in defending your personal relationship with God as something other than just plain life or nothing at all, I'm game.

Christians are a minority in this world. God hasn't revealed himself to the majority of those living on this Earth. Thousands of people die each day. God never revealed himself. Now he destroys their soul in Hell for eternity so the story goes. That doesn't give me a whole lot of confidence that this supposed God will reveal himself to you, me, or anyone else.

I'm reasonable though. God can reveal himself to me any time. There is just one problem though. Given God's direct revelations in the past, God has wanted his chosen few to murder children and various asundry other attrocities. His revelation may not help with my salvation. God revealed himself to Pharaoh, but with all God's heart hardening and the horror of plagues God sent forth to waive the banner of God's great glory for all to see, Pharaoh never really became much of the church going worshipper. Plus, we have another thread going where your Christian brethren assure me that if God does reveal himself to me, I may very well just be insane.

Sure you pray to God for me, and if your faith is as big as a mustard seed, I'll be down on my knees in a pool of my own piss, vomit and sweat prayin' to Jesus right along with you before you know it. Only don't hold your breath, ye of so little faith.

You're not just kidding. God is a figment of your imagination.

Naked Ape

That sound like a great experiment, but please don't pray for me, I'm in the control group.

Cheers,

Naked Ape