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Old 11-14-2012, 04:00 PM   #61
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... What argument do you have to support the idea that we know more about what is good or bad or lazy, etc.. than our creator?
Since these are categories we created, who would know more?
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... What argument do you have to support the idea that we know more about what is good or bad or lazy, etc.. than our creator?
Since these are categories we created, who would know more?
These are categories we have labeled, but if we were created then the categories were also created, as they are labels we give to concepts regarding the created reality. The answer to your question is simply: The Creator would know more.
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:12 PM   #63
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After trying to follow the last dozen or so postings in this thread, I finally understood what the Tentmaker was saying:


Myself when young did eagerly frequent
Doctor and Saint, and heard great argument
About it and about: but evermore
Came out by the same door where in I went.
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I"m not playing a game. I'm not defining god in this way. Your logic is limited. I'm simply saying we (meaning all of us) should not be so arrogant as to think we have the right to hold onto our judgements about God as being lazy, good, bad, uncaring, etc.. with any sense of certainty because if he exists and created us he obviously knows more than us about the reasons for the things we don't like...
Well, you must admit that if Prometheus existed and created us then Prometheus knows more than us.

If RA existed and created us then RA knows more than us.

Today it is known that Prometheus and RA were created for us and really did NOT exist and knew nothing.

It is obviously inevitable that one day hardly anyone will accept that the God of the Jews existed and created us.

The reasons are obvious.

The God of the Jews is just like Prometheus and RA--NOTHING.

My judgment is based on history.

Mankind will fabricate a new modern God just like they did for thousands of years.
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It is obviously inevitable that one day hardly anyone will accept that the God of the Jews existed and created us.
Who said anything about the God of the Jews?
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I said something about the God of the Jews.

You must identify your "God".

Please identify your Creator.

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...We are talking about judging our creator, if he exists.
The God of the Jews is a Creator in the Bible.
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...We are talking about judging our creator, if he exists.
The God of the Jews is a Creator in the Bible.
No that does not follow at all. God created man and not the Jew and in fact the Jew is not even created . . . and Jews will never enter the New Jerusalem as Jew because there are no temples there, and actually, the Jew on him and the Jew in him must be crucified first so there is no Jew left in him qand that is why they disrobed him and made him bleed blood and water so the man can be raised in the image of God and most unlike a Jew.

Now if he was a Catholic that would be different because Christ is already home in Rome wherefore then Catholics are welcome there, from which follows that Rome is home for them in the glory of St. Peter who moved to Rome and took Mary with him to make a happy family there inside the reign of God. I think they call it the Church Triumphant but they won't tell you that.
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a diety who has his ass kicked to make himself happy makes sense to you? why would god in spirit watch his flesh get kick the crap out of ? why would god bull s hit to himself/ deceive himself when he knows he is not flesh and he knows he is 100 % spirit? why would a diety go and excrete when he knows that thier is no organ in his body to digest the food? why is your diety deceiving himself? why does god, who WATCHES death and applies it to any item, want to watch himself get beaten the shit out of and die? why? who is he trying to please? his spirit? his flesh? what?
if the spirit of your god was capable of working outside of flesh , then why does diety need flesh when his spirit is omnipresent?
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I said something about the God of the Jews.

You must identify your "God".

Please identify your Creator.



The God of the Jews is a Creator in the Bible.
No that does not follow at all. God created man and not the Jew and in fact the Jew is not even created . . . and Jews will never enter the New Jerusalem as Jew because there are no temples there, and actually, the Jew on him and the Jew in him must be crucified first so there is no Jew left in him qand that is why they disrobed him and made him bleed blood and water so the man can be raised in the image of God and most unlike a Jew.

Now if he was a Catholic that would be different because Christ is already home in Rome wherefore then Catholics are welcome there, from which follows that Rome is home for them in the glory of St. Peter who moved to Rome and took Mary with him to make a happy family there inside the reign of God. I think they call it the Church Triumphant but they won't tell you that.
What an ugly world of myth the reign of the papacy is.

Crucify the Jew to allow the triumph of the imperial world of myth!
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Who said anything about the God of the Jews?
God is an evil tool .God is to life what syphilis is to sex.
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