Chris Weimer

Actually, if you read the original, it doesn't. But you can't do that, can you? :down:

Toto - the law I was referring to is that if you injure a woman so that she has a miscarriage, then it is only a fine as determined by the judge and the husband. If the woman is further injured, than it is life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. Aka - the foetus is not a life.

Try to fuck 'em over on that one.

starling

Only 144,000 people in Jewish tribes get to go to Heaven. Everyone else goes to Hell.

Do not shelter, or wish well anyone not Christian.

Refuse to associate with anyone who isn't circumcised.

As for laws contradicting the persecution of gay people, Judge not, that ye be not judged.

That last one actually makes sense. So for something Jesus said that doesn't make sense, Only single people go to Heaven You can't bury your dead family or bid the living ones farewell on your way to go spend the rest of your life worshipping only God. Christians aren't allowed to go to Israel until I come back from the dead.

Non-believer

The writer of Hebrews clearly states that there would be no need for the law to be replaced if it had been "faultless." Well I took the opportunity to find passages in the Jewish Scriptures that refute this assertion. I wrote an essay on this subject but I want to revise it a bit before I post it. There are far too many passages to post them all, but here are several of them.

I have yet to see a Christian tell me how something can be "more excellent" and "better" than that which is "perfect."

Magus55

Not even gonna go into this since you apparently haven't the foggiest clue what that verse means.

What verse are you referring to? Could you post the actual verses and not these stupid links to an even more stupid site?

Toto

This appears to be a reference to:

2 John

1:9
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

1:10
If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:

1:11
For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

epepke

22Â*Â*Â*If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.
23Â*Â*Â*And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,
24Â*Â*Â*Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
25Â*Â*Â*Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

Chris Weimer

well, being King James and all, it's not the original, but it does back me up

judge

There a plenty of seemingly stupid laws, but bear in mind that even St Paul did not consider that these laws were meant literally.

1 Corinthians 9:8-10
Do I say this merely from a human point of view? Doesn't the Law say the same thing? For it is written in the Law of Moses: "Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain." Is it about oxen that God is concerned? Surely he says this for us, doesn't he? Yes, this was written for us, because when the plowman plows and the thresher threshes, they ought to do so in the hope of sharing in the harvest.

Nice Squirrel

I have to agree. If you are all for defending Leviticus, you might want to eat kosher.

Toto

Hey folks - Tsurman won his debate - go to the last page of that thread.

Please stick to Biblical issues in this thread. There are other threads on Gay Marriage in PD for those who want to debate other aspects of that topic.