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Breath · 08-30-2007, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ck1

The bottom line is scientists are pragmatists. We want our experiments to work and we want to see progress in our research. Whenever a new idea or new technology appears everyone takes a look to determine whether it would be useful in their own work. And broadly useful new ideas/technologies spread rapidly.* If you or anyone can show how your concept of an Immaterial Intelligence has any practical use in a lab, it would be used. I would use it.

But it does not. So the concept is considered irrelevant to science.

I'd love to believe you, honestly. And I mean that quote sincerely.

You tell me how the age of the Earth or the Universe, or the status quo at Planck time + 1 after the Big Bang has any practical use anywhere at all, let alone a lab, and I will become a scientist. Failing a practical use, they will remain metaphysical bullshit claims.

In other words, don't use the word science to denote something authorative. Because that just invites bashing. And I like gays, they're good shopppers.

Worldtraveller · 08-30-2007, 05:25 AM

This seems more Sciencey and less evolutiony.....

*bumping it next door*

xaxxat · 08-30-2007, 05:27 AM

Dave, my company will throw $$$ at you if you can come up with some supernatural motors and the devices to control them...

Got anything ready to patent?

Breath · 08-30-2007, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by xaxxat

Dave, my company will throw $$$ at you if you can come up with some supernatural motors and the devices to control them...

Got anything ready to patent?

Well, isn't that what replicators are supposed to be? Aren't they like, you know, perpetual mobiles?

Silent Dave · 08-30-2007, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by afdave

(Gone for about 2 hours ... I will respond to questions then)

Good! Start with these.

(And darnitall, what did I tell you guys about bugging me to update the list? :Cheeky: )

xaxxat · 08-30-2007, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Breath

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Originally Posted by xaxxat

Dave, my company will throw $$$ at you if you can come up with some supernatural motors and the devices to control them...

Got anything ready to patent?

Well, isn't that what replicators are supposed to be? Aren't they like, you know, perpetual mobiles?

Our "replicators" are human designed and operated CNC machines...

Jet Black · 08-30-2007, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by afdave

So my point was that splitting atoms is a job that will never end. In theory, you should be able to keep splitting indefinitely and you never will reach a truly elementary particle.

as I said earlier, you really don't know much about physics do you?

damitall · 08-30-2007, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by afdave

So my point was that splitting atoms is a job that will never end. In theory, you should be able to keep splitting indefinitely and you never will reach a truly elementary particle.

I found it difficult to believe anyone had posted this, other than as some kind of a joke.

Then I realised who the poster was.

Breath · 08-30-2007, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jet Black

Quote:

Originally Posted by afdave

So my point was that splitting atoms is a job that will never end. In theory, you should be able to keep splitting indefinitely and you never will reach a truly elementary particle.

as I said earlier, you really don't know much about physics do you?

I came in late on this thread. Sorry. What is the definitive answer I should be aware of?

untermensche · 08-30-2007, 06:10 AM

As far as matter goes, I'm a supernaturalist. There is no natural explanation for why matter exists. But maybe one will be found. I doubt it.

As far as human origins though. I'm a pure naturalist. Evolution works with what is available, using the properties of what is available. It does not create something. It rerarranges somethings that already exist.

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08-30-2007, 05:25 AM	#12
Worldtraveller Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,834	This seems more Sciencey and less evolutiony..... bumping it next door

08-30-2007, 05:27 AM	#13
xaxxat Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Space Station 33 Posts: 2,543	Dave, my company will throw $$$ at you if you can come up with some supernatural motors and the devices to control them... Got anything ready to patent?

08-30-2007, 06:10 AM	#20
untermensche Contributor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 16,553	As far as matter goes, I'm a supernaturalist. There is no natural explanation for why matter exists. But maybe one will be found. I doubt it. As far as human origins though. I'm a pure naturalist. Evolution works with what is available, using the properties of what is available. It does not create something. It rerarranges somethings that already exist.

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