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Pharaoh · 12-05-2003, 02:50 PM

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Mageth · 12-05-2003, 02:54 PM

That's a direct, and uncredited, cut-n-paste from one of several sites such as this one.

Pharaoh, are you the author? If not, you should at least cretit the author. Further, it's preferable to post a link rather than just cut-n-paste the entire content of a website.

Heathen Dawn · 12-05-2003, 03:07 PM

As-salaam alaykum warahmatu llaahi wabaraakatuh. Amma ba’d:

You want to lead people to the truth of Islam. Well and good. You must know that most people here are atheists. So your first step in your goal is to prove to them that Allah exists.

I already believe God exists, so you can skip that step with me. However, as to the Shahaadah, I believe only the first part: ashhadu an la ilaaha illa llaah, I testify that there is no deity but God, that is well; but as to wa'anna Muhammadan rasulu llaah, that Muhammad is the prophet of God, I disbelieve. You’ll have to convince me that the Qur’an is the word of God in order to turn me into a Muslim.

Carry on, friend.

wade-w · 12-05-2003, 03:08 PM

Please link to such material, rather than just using copy and paste. Also, we expect at least some attempt at a discussion of the piece. Do you agree with its contents or not? What is the point of it?

wade-w
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Heathen Dawn · 12-05-2003, 03:09 PM

His profile says he’s a Muslim, so he must agree with the content. I trow he’s trying to convert us to Islam.

wade-w · 12-05-2003, 03:11 PM

The question was rhetorical, HD. I was giving examples of the types of things the Pharoah might want to address in addition to just posting a someone else's words.

Adora · 12-05-2003, 03:24 PM

I don't get the point to this OP. What's it supposed to do? What's your point? Why should we care, for that matter?

Heathen Dawn · 12-05-2003, 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by Adora
I don't get the point to this OP. What's it supposed to do? What's your point? Why should we care, for that matter?

It’s a testimonial of a Christian who converted to Islam. What, did you think only Christians gave conversion testimonials?

Anyway, we’re supposed to be impressed and convert to Islam, that’s the point.

Adora · 12-05-2003, 03:39 PM

Yes, but what's the point? I can show you an orange and not make a point with it. Unless I explain to you I'm trying to get you to eat an orange.

Magus55 · 12-05-2003, 08:50 PM

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For example, many people say that Islam is prejudiced towards women because Islamic laws of inheritance award the male twice as much as the female. What they fail to learn, however, is that males have financial responsibilities in Islam that females do not have.

An interesting point from the summary. So would this be why Muhammed said the majority of the people in Hell are women? Hmm - apparently in Islam, having less financial responsibility has a high probability of getting you sent to Hell

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12-05-2003, 02:54 PM	#2
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	That's a direct, and uncredited, cut-n-paste from one of several sites such as this one. Pharaoh, are you the author? If not, you should at least cretit the author. Further, it's preferable to post a link rather than just cut-n-paste the entire content of a website.

12-05-2003, 03:07 PM	#3
Heathen Dawn Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 4,656	As-salaam alaykum warahmatu llaahi wabaraakatuh. Amma ba’d: You want to lead people to the truth of Islam. Well and good. You must know that most people here are atheists. So your first step in your goal is to prove to them that Allah exists. I already believe God exists, so you can skip that step with me. However, as to the Shahaadah, I believe only the first part: ashhadu an la ilaaha illa llaah, I testify that there is no deity but God, that is well; but as to wa'anna Muhammadan rasulu llaah, that Muhammad is the prophet of God, I disbelieve. You’ll have to convince me that the Qur’an is the word of God in order to turn me into a Muslim. Carry on, friend.

12-05-2003, 03:08 PM	#4
wade-w Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Silver City, New Mexico Posts: 1,872	Please link to such material, rather than just using copy and paste. Also, we expect at least some attempt at a discussion of the piece. Do you agree with its contents or not? What is the point of it? wade-w Moderator, GRD

12-05-2003, 03:09 PM	#5
Heathen Dawn Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 4,656	His profile says he’s a Muslim, so he must agree with the content. I trow he’s trying to convert us to Islam.

12-05-2003, 03:11 PM	#6
wade-w Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Silver City, New Mexico Posts: 1,872	The question was rhetorical, HD. I was giving examples of the types of things the Pharoah might want to address in addition to just posting a someone else's words.

12-05-2003, 03:24 PM	#7
Adora Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,743	I don't get the point to this OP. What's it supposed to do? What's your point? Why should we care, for that matter?

12-05-2003, 03:39 PM	#9
Adora Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,743	Yes, but what's the point? I can show you an orange and not make a point with it. Unless I explain to you I'm trying to get you to eat an orange.

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