livius drusus

Discussion of the lessons nature teaches us are not relevant to this thread. Unless they revolve around Dawkins good looks, that is.

Let's try and stick somewhat to the issue of how we treat each other instead of dissecting each other's positions on theological matters.

Heathen Dawn

I’m all for deserved ridicule, Gurdur. Magus deserves ridicule. Starboy and Biff the unclean don’t.

Gurdur

I guess that means you don't have any actually serious charge at all.
How sad for your claims.

livius drusus

That's thoroughly inappropriate. Besides, it contradicts your own discussion with Haran.

Heathen Dawn

I think it’s thoroughly inappropriate that, in our day and age, someone still believes in a 6000-year-old universe.

Oh, my discussion with Haran ... I forgot all about it. I’ll try to remember. It’s just that sometimes I’m not in the mood of being kind and respectful towards theists. My apologies. Ridicule and condescension is so easy, it comes out of the fingertips very handily.

Tell you the truth, I’m oftentimes torn between the attitudes of Biff the unclean and DigitalChicken. I know for a fact ridicule has never won the fight for the mind, but being kind and respectful in the face of theistic absurdity is so... so... wishy-washy. Besides, where I live there is no respectful dialogue, only vitriol and gunfire, so I’m not used to a climate of respectful debate.

Gurdur

Gosh ! I see no difference in the ridiculousness of claims made by you, Starboy, Magus55 or Biff the unclean.

I'm still waiting for you to make any serious charge at all.

I couldn't care less whether you think insulting Magus55 is OK; it isn't.
Oh, and BTW, all I do is debunk your claims according to logic.

ROFL!
Yet you get all upset if it seems your ridiculous claims are being ridiculed ---- even if they're only being logically demonstrated as false.
:boohoo:
You've been on SecWeb as long as I have.
You've had time enough to learn.

seebs

I don't think you "know" any more than the religious folks I know "know". I think you have *made up your mind*.

This is a very strong argument from emotion, but totally lacking in argumentive substance. You *believe*. You have *faith*. Just like me; you just happen to have faith going the other way.

I can make the same argument from hot buttered toast, sunsets, and butterflies, and it's just as totally meaningless.

I don't think it's remotely obvious, or supportable, that people would not believe in God from observation alone; in fact, people seem to come to this conclusion independently from time to time. It seems more likely that different people have different predispositions.

I can just as well say that you're "suppressing" the good in the world as you can that I'm "suppressing" the evil in the world. There's no support for either position; people just interpret data differently, and the idea that there's a "right" way, on something philosophical like this, is the essense of religion. You have yours, I have mine, and maybe eventually we'll find out who was right.

Gurdur

Calvinist.
Bad boy !

Heathen Dawn

Because you say so? “Gurdur said it, I believe it, that settles it”? No thanks.

Maybe, but I didn’t choose you as my teacher. Neither have the other posters you mentioned. You think you’re an authority, but you aren’t. You’re just another friggin’ poster here.

Gurdur

No, because it's against general SecWeb and specific GRD posting rules.
It's also illogical.
*snicker*
Your personal antipathy for me does not make a rational argument.


I draw your attention to the SecWeb FAQ on logic. Lots of good info in there !
I merely wish to help you.


Oh, BTW, I see you still haven't got any actually serious charges at all. Tsk !