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Old 12-25-2003, 06:59 AM   #21
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Dr X: As long as you give credit to Friedman, there's no plagerism involved.
It just takes too long! For example, in a book you can take the Flood Myth and print the different authors in different print and see how it is two stories "stitched" together.

Hey, if you follow my link to Amazon, you will get a deal on Mack's intro to the NT.

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Old 12-25-2003, 07:33 AM   #22
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What the problem here is, I think is any scholar giving away any evidence, whether too little, false, misconstrued, mistaken or biased.
We aren't talking about giving away evidence.

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Where do you find that middle ground? Where is the happy medium? Who decides? What is it about Friedman's work that you don't agree with? Even Dr. X has a few problems with Friedman. But it seems that Friedman is the best to go on for the moment.
We obviously like answers better than doubts. However this is a field full of doubts and we have to eke out evidence where we can. The alphabet soup provides relatively easy answers. It's the next best thing to the fundamentalist belief that it is text from Moses.

I don't have anything against Friedman. I have something against the assumptions which underpin the alphabet soup.

I argue for example that the Melkizedek story in Gen 14 was written at the time of the Hasmoneans. That the table of nations in Gen 10 is fundamentally based on a Greek model. There's an ancient Hindu text which mentions both Muhammed and Queen Victoria -- and oviously other allusions through the ages that don't mean anything to me. The text was in permanent evolution. This is what I have attempted to introduce here, that the biblical texts were in flux until the pharisaic orthodoxy -- although the pentateuch was finished perhaps somewhat earlier -- in various recensions, the main ones being Massoretic Text, LXX and Samaritan Text.


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The text was in permanent evolution.
Now yer talkin'

The same would be true of oral tradition.
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