Splarnst

People really need to read the OP before posting.

Ronin

My reading of the bible has him as both God and man.

My view of that is that it is incoherent. :huh:

StarCross

Hi Soul Invictus,

Thanks for the response. This thread is about what the Bible tells us about the identity of Jesus. I did not include 'fictional character' as an option because nobody I know interprets any verse of scripture that way. Your conclusion that Jesus would be exclusively human appears to be your own opinion and not an interpretation of any Bible verse.

Thanks,
StarCross

Asha'man

But Sir Cross, if you were to read one of AEsop's fables about Renard the Fox, how would you answer the same question? What does the fable tell us Renard is?

You might answer "he's a Fox", but we all know that Foxes don't talk. You might say "he's an allegory for Man", but that still doesn't really answer the question well. Saying that Renard is a fictional character is also quite accurate, even if it's an incomplete part of the story.

To me, the Bible identifies Jesus as Man, as God, as something else, all at at the same time. Together, that implies that he is a character in a story who is allowed to be anything the author wants. So, I consider it quite accurate to say that the Bible tells us that Jesus is a fictional character.

Julian

The problem with the question asked in the OP is that it assumes that the bible presents a single unified definition of what he is. Clearly one could pick all of the answers in the poll and find biblical support for each one. The poll can therefore not be answered unless an option named, "All of the above" is added.

Julian

Soul Invictus

And I disagree. I've met many Christians that have varying positions on the topic based on their interpretation of the Bible.

Amaleq13

I agree. That's the one I would have picked.

StarCross

Hello Soul Invictus,

What is it you disagree with? That your conclusion about Jesus is not your interpretation of scripture or that no verse of scripture is interpreted as claiming that Jesus is fictional?

Since you quoted no scripture and made no attempt to even imply that you were interpreting any scripture at all, I simply assumed you formed an opinion of Jesus based on something else. If I am mistaken then I apologize.

Thanks
StarCross

Soul Invictus

Howdy StarCross,

Here's my responses to your questions.

I should have only quoted a portion of your response. This was to address your comment


No problem. One scripture that comes to mind is 1 Tim.2:5

I'm not readily sure of the apologetics for this one (which I'm sure are some) but this verse does a few things.

1) It establishes that there is one God
2) It makes a distinction that God is a separate type of entity from a man (by virtue of a connecting mediator)
3) Jesus is a man

MonCapitan2002

How many verses make that indication, though?