Goliath

Hardly wisdom! Wisdom does not imply the following of any commands.

Then again, I shouldn't be surprised that a xian thinks that it's wise to "just follow orders..."

So what? Jesus (I presume) is telling someone to speak for him. Whoopty-freaking-doo. Why should I care?

Sincerely,

Goliath

Answerer

Oh my, all this arguments are happening because of my comment, sorry guys.

Of course, the bible is not totally crap but still, I believe it is generally crap. It is a historical document no doubt, but covered with several mythical stories and historical inaccuracy. Reading the bible often give me the feeling of reading a original fantasy novel or ancient folktales. Therefore, I would largely prefer a non-fictional historical books than it.

And no, I don't spend my time worrying about bible, its my curiosity that prompted me to read and study it in the first place.

Answerer

Sorry, missed this out.

And you would trust the bible to give you an accurate worldview? I would rather search the library for such details.

spin

There is no necessity of that at all.

I see no reason why I should start the arduous task of re-educating you.

[QUOTE=Goliath]Wrong, and wrong. I have been ready to read the text since I did so about 14 years ago, and if I wasn't open to reading it, we wouldn't be having this conversation.[QUOTE=Goliath]

Again, this doesn't follow. You might just like to say the bible is crap for whatever reasons you care to think, which need not be related to the text itself.

[QUOTE=Goliath]Unchanging? No. Unwilling? Yes, at the moment, but only because I am very busy.[QUOTE=Goliath]

OK. So am I.


spin

spin

I get the idea you don't like religions and religious literature. Does this mean that, because you don't, you can't read a text for its literary merit because it conveys a religious message?


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Goliath

How so? If I had no interest in any aspect of the English language, I would have no interest in communicating in the English language, whence we wouldn't be having this conversation.

How supremely arrogant. I see no reason why I should take your word that the bible is anything but a useless book of bile, hatred, and bigotry written by scared, cowering, ancient sheep-herders.

And again with no explanation as to why. To quote one of my favorite movies: "Are you going to bark all day, little doggie? Or are you gonna bite?"

I might...but I didn't. I said that the bible was crap because it doesn't seem to contain a single thing that I find worthwhile and cannot find elsewhere. The fact that you still can't point out anything in the bible that I find worthwhile and can't find elsewhere is extremely telling.

Sincerely,

Goliath

spin

That is not what was being said. Note, "You can get an insight into the worldview of an ancient people". The original was not a discourse about accuracy of worldviews. It was about how groups of people dealt with the world in ancient times. This is of interest in itself, ie how people approached the world before they had "coherent" means of explaining the world through scientific observation and classification.


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Goliath

Of interest to whom?? Your desire to assume that others' interests are your own makes you disturbingly similar to far too many xians.

Sincerely,

Goliath

spin

You seem to be conflating two distinct notions of 1) the practical application of a language with 2) interest in the medium of communication.

I'd read it in the context of your previous statements.

I never asked you to. I pointed at things which I considered showed merit in the bible, if you wanted to read them.

Vanity of vanities, says the preacher. All is vanity.

Your task is to understand your own reasoning and be able to demonstrate it. I can't do that for you.

Why don't you stick to movies? They seem to even supply you with linguistic tools.

If you haven't read the bible in 15 years, perhaps your memory is not particularly accurate, or, as I said earlier, your views have been changed through 15 years of experience. But to comment on the text, you have to open the book, otherwise you don't give yourself the chance of pointing out "anything in the bible that [you] find worthwhile".


spin

spin

It's all right. You don't have to find interesting things that other people find interesting. And remember the post wasn't directed to you, so you needn't feel forced to accept the view.


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