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Old 03-11-2008, 03:30 PM   #91
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Huh? You claimed atheists are going to Hell for disbelieving in jesus.

how do the Jews get off the hook for disbelieving?

Basically, God throws Jews in hell for being Jewish.

And didn't you say previously, "It doesn't matter how many good works we do in life, you will go to Hell for disbelieving in jesus."

Now you claim he punishes sin in Hell.
Good works does not atone for sins....only the Blood of Jesus....because sin result in death...death is the reward for sin...thank God for Jesus.

So how come only 2 billion people out of 6 billion are going to Heaven? 4 billion people in the world don't believe in jesus.

Why did god set it up so the majority will be in hell?

Why did he even create Hell in the first place?
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If hell is true, then he's saying the truth.
Then he's also the god who created hell. That would make him an evil god.
And created paradise. Creating hell isn't evil, would punishing Bin Laden and Hitler be considered evil?
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Then he's also the god who created hell. That would make him an evil god.
And created paradise. Creating hell isn't evil, would punishing Bin Laden and Hitler be considered evil?
For a certain amount of time? Not in the least bit.

Forever? Yes.
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Half life are you "trolling?" Jesus is the Word made flesh. In other words if you hate God's Words you hate Him. If you dont have any regard for His Salvation.....you have chosen.

Then why don't we go around incinerating Buddhists and Hindus?

God's just gonna do it forever, right?

or do we not do it because we respect their beliefs?

Why can't God respect their beliefs?
We dont do it because God will surely be displeased....And its not about belief.. its about rejecting the Truth....there is no such thing as belief...only lies and the Truth....Again the Bible makes it clear that the rejection of Christ exposes a person's true character.
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Half life are you "trolling?" Jesus is the Word made flesh.
Define this mysterious "Word". Is it something like the Weirding Word from Dune? Sounds rooted in magic to me...you know..the notion that words can "make" things.

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What words of God are we supposed to hate? And I think you could perhaps use a little study...look into the difference between "Word" as used in e.g. the Gospel of John and the notion of "words" as in God speaking some words like "Get in line before I whip ya, boy!"

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If you dont have any regard for His Salvation.....you have chosen.
Bottom line is, I did not choose to be born a human, or to be born into a messed-up universe like the one you describe. I didn't ask to play this stupid game you describe. The Game is God's, not mine. I, like everyone else, am just an unwilling (as I did not will to participate) pawn.
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Then he's also the god who created hell. That would make him an evil god.
And created paradise. Creating hell isn't evil, would punishing Bin Laden and Hitler be considered evil?
You cannot believe such unadulturated shit, can you????! How the fuck are Adolf Hitler's and Osama bin Laden's sins of the same depravity as the Buddhist layperson who donates heavily to charity, is loving to all, with a large happy family?

You really are just incapable of simple human compassion, aren't you? Can you not step back and see just how monstrous your beliefs say your god is?

--it has to be willing blindness, backed up by conditioning and cognitive dissonance NB
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Hell; the only contribution that could be considered original courtesy of JC and manifesting as child abuse when taught as fact
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Then why don't we go around incinerating Buddhists and Hindus?

God's just gonna do it forever, right?

or do we not do it because we respect their beliefs?

Why can't God respect their beliefs?
We dont do it because God will surely be displeased....And its not about belief.. its about rejecting the Truth....there is no such thing as belief...only lies and the Truth....Again the Bible makes it clear that the rejection of Christ exposes a person's true character.
What true character? Are you implying all 4 billion non-christians are evil and 2 billion christians are loving?
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And created paradise. Creating hell isn't evil, would punishing Bin Laden and Hitler be considered evil?
After they die? Bringing them back to life so that they can suffer in an afterlife? For what purpose?

Yes, such punishment could be considered evil. Punishment, inflicting pain, just for the sake of punishment, without any hope or promise of accomplishing anything good, or even with the hope of accomplishing something, can be considered evil.

Say we caught Bin Laden today, and put him on trial. Arguably, if found guilty, death might be a suitable punishment. Imprisonment, certainly.

But causing him to suffer, e.g. torturing him, for no good purpose? (or even for a purpose)? Yes, that could be considered evil.
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I couldn't help but notice that many critics here, not only deny Jesus's existence, but accuse Him of being evil as well (whether he existed or not). I haven't yet heard anything specific, but i'm curious....what is evil about Jesus Christ? Sorry if I offend anyone by saying this.....if any man accuse the biblical Jesus of being evil...something is very wrong....very wrong.
Well, if you think Jesus is God, then God is evil.
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