Chili

So how do you suppose we can follow Christ if Jesus himself did not become Christ until Ascension? (which makes it impossible for us to know what he did as Christ so as to follow him).

Please show me anywhere in the four Gospels where Jesus was addressed as Christ except after Ascension.

seven8s

Okay, I'll bite..............

Let me see if I can get this straight. Mary (Eve) was not a sinner (I'll buy that), therefore Virgin (not of flesh, e.g. bone of my bone, rather earth), therefore Jesus' (Adam's) cross to bear was being a "snake" (serpent), hence jew (born into the lie accepting it as truth, religion), which must die, becoming the Christ (first believer) that women are wonderful (yep I'll definitely buy that). And now that the way has been shown, both men and women can live happily ever after!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think all you guys out there had better start listening to Chili, and if not listen to me.................. :rolling:

Susan

And yes I do agree, Eve never was jewish. Your posts delight me, I follow them all the time!!!!!!!!

seven8s

Ah yes, but doesn't he make for delightful reading.................just your responce and all the responces here make for delightful reading. Flax into gold................LOLOLOLOL. Hey Chili can you share the recipe?

seven8s

Exhusting his own faith, or exorcizing the collective consciousness, the shadow archtype?????????????


To crucify the Adam within himself.................recognizing that even he (man) was/is without sin, but had rather projected what he feared, that he was without knowledge................Also, to exhaust his own faith he would have had to go all the way back to Adam. ??????????

seven8s

I have seen the enemy, it is myself.

seven8s

Ach!! Leave Eve out of this, she has been picked on long enough! Other then that you guys gon on and have at it!

seven8s

How about, stubborn brute? That is if we are going metaphorically with the story which I have no doubt it is.

Bright Life

Oh, most assuredly. Chili and I have great fun.


BL

Philippe*

Jesus was not a christian, neither Budda was a buddhist, nor mister joe a joist, this term comes later in the NT cf letters from Paul for the followers not the instigator.
Jesus was a jew :
*as he was a David's descendant*
*culturally born and raised in Israel
*from a religious point of view, he thought he was the Messiah, he was an heretic jew. Jews think he has read the Torah too young and he has lost reason.

Moreover, catholics are christians.

Philippe

*or "half-jew", or not jew at all for those thinking there was no Mary's ovum involved in the fecondation

Chili

But Mary was not Eve and Christ was not Adam but at best can they be called second Eve and second Adam.

Mary and Christ were called "man" and "woman" before the fall and they were man and woman because they had no personal identity of their own (no persona) and therefore felt no shame. Based on this can it be said that "the heart of Woman" is "the heart of Christ" and we have an icon that displays just that (a lot women kind of display this as well and that is why Mary is the embodyment of womanity).

Eve was the serpent and Adam was the ego consciousness of man after he consumed from the tree of Knowledge which is equal to just using his conscious mind (such as we all do for good reason). This, however made man "self aware" and this fact is made known by the voice that was heard in the garden "Adam where are you?" After this self awareness they felt naked and therefore could feel shame for the first time =fall of man. It has nothing to do with their physical nakedness but their dual identity. Of this dual identity man and woman became the cherub and the fiery revolving sword that were stationned at the gate to paradise and Adam and the serpent -- whom he called Eve-- became the two identities of the conscious mind.

Notice that woman had been taken from man and Adam called his wife Eve. These four identities become the effective forces within the mind of man (males and females alike) with Adam being the name we are known by, such as Susan in your case.

To get back into Eden we must crucify our Adam (Jesus or Susan in your case), and this will leave your Mary Magdalene without a mate after you die, which would be obvious). In doing this man and woman will be set free (there called Barabbas with Mary being the real victor of this event because she is the one who drove Adam to the point in life where he was willing to be crucified by his own pharisees (first fruits of religion since indoctrination to make Mary a virgin = spiritual hymen = no bible studies allowed for they are the yeast of the pahrisees)).

The serpent must be raised but not to get into the promised land like Moses did. She must be raised after we enter the promised land to 'be' the converted slave that brings healing to our body. That way we would not need her on ambulances where she really does not belong.