Seeker2000

Take a look at this website: http://web.archive.org/web/200502091...com/torah.html (it is only available through the Internet archive at the moment)

This alone would appear to be coincidence only, but apparently this also works if you start from the first ("T") with the same 49 letter interval in the second book of the Torah, Exodus. In the fourth and the fifth book of the Torah, Numbers and Deuteronomy, this works as well, only with "HROT," that is, TORH backwards. In the middle book of the Torah, Leviticus, the same works with YHWH, the sacred name of God, using a 7 letter interval.

Well, usually I don't think much of Bible codes, as it has been shown that such structures can be found in many texts, simply by coincidence.

This code however seems to be quite remarkable. The codes can be found at the beginning of each book and together form the following structure:
TORH > TORH > YHWH < HROT < HROT

Also, the letter interval is the same for the TORH/HROT codes and for YHWH it is 7, a number with a lot of religious significance.

On a different website I even read that the TORH/HROT codes can also be found at the end of each book.

Anyway, on the link above it states that "the conclusions of this Paper have been invalidated with New Research findings", so the author of the text himself doesn't believe in it anymore it appears.

As I said, I agree that Bible or Torah codes are usually bogus. This one looks very remarkable to me though, because TORH/HROT appears right at the beginning of each book and it's always the same 49 letter interval.

Can this occur by chance only? Maybe some editor of the Torah texts could have put this into them at some point of time... or is this complete nonsense? What do you think?

Imnotspecial

The bible is difficult enough as it is. If the above were actually true, one would have to conclude that god is really playing games with us.

Diogenes the Cynic

Where are the O's coming from? That's not a Hebrew letter.

Seeker2000

I don't know any Hebrew, but there are pictures of the Hebrew text (albeit in bad quality) available at http://web.archive.org/web/200502091...com/torah.html

S.C.Carlson

It would be a waw.

Of course, the phenomenon is not surprising because (a) one has to start from the first taw, not the 50th letter of the book, (b) that waw and he are very common letters, (c) that it is OK to include backward spellings, and (d) it is OK to change one of the words in the middle (whose letters are all common).

As far as this numerological fun is concerned, this is too contrived to be enjoyable.

pharoah

Did you follow the link on that page that explained why the paper was invalidated? It was pure random chance. Using the very same methods, a professor found several slanderous phrases about God in the Torah. To quote the page:

Bible codes and numerology are just pure crap to ensnare the gullible.

Kosh

More Christian interpretation? :devil:

Newton's Cat

Simwn "Simon"
Kurenaios "Cyrene"
Alexandros "Alexander"
Rouphos "Rufus"

cf. Mark 15 verse 21

simwn kurenaios alexandros rouphus ...

... anagrams to:

markos naxios adelphos iesou rwnnur

... which translates to:

Mark of Naxios brother of Jesus "the one who strengthens/makes mighty"

Just some crap of mine to ensnare people into thinking I "know something".

Seeker2000

Well, you (and the others) might be correct about this being a coincidence and a natural phenomenon only. It just seemed to be really exceptional to me...

Harry Bosch

Using the same process: Moby Dick predicted 9-11 and the Black October stock market crash and other such events.