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Chili · 09-09-2005, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Clivedurdle

What does "every creature" mean? How does one take the gospel to an amoeba?

Good question. Creatures only exist in the mind of the beholder wherein only the caricature of the creature must be converted.

Nero's Boot · 09-09-2005, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chili

Good question. Creatures only exist in the mind of the beholder wherein only the caricature of the creature must be converted.

So: We create millions of plush-amoeba dolls, and convert them?

--because otherwise, I have no fucking idea what you just wrote NB

Booklady · 09-09-2005, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Toto

attributed to Ogden Nash

It's probably not Ogden Nash:

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How odd of Christopher Hitchens, in his review of Douglas Murray's biography of Lord Alfred Douglas [NYR, September 21, 2000], to attribute to Douglas the familiar anti-Semitic doggerel "How odd/Of God/To choose/The Jews." Usually the attribution is to Hillaire Belloc, but in fact the verse was written by William Norman Ewer (1885–1976). The almost equally well known reply was written by Cecil Browne: "But not so odd/As those who choose/A Jewish God/But spurn the Jews." The riposte quoted (actually misquoted) by Hitchens—"Not odd/Of God./ Goyim/Annoy 'im."—was penned by the noted American author and Yiddishist Leo Rosten. (from http://www.nybooks.com/articles/14176)

Chili · 09-10-2005, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Nero's Boot

So: We create millions of plush-amoeba dolls, and convert them?

--because otherwise, I have no fucking idea what you just wrote NB

Yes, we must convert our own creations and they only exist in our own mind. The rest just "is" as in "I AM."

Joan of Bark · 09-10-2005, 09:12 AM

YHWH was clearly a tribal God, never meant to apply to everyone. Christians then altered Him to be an all-inclusive God.

Chili · 09-10-2005, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Joan of Bark

YHWH was clearly a tribal God, never meant to apply to everyone. Christians then altered Him to be an all-inclusive God.

You mean like a sober drunk they will take anything along to relieve the pain of alienation?

SaintCog · 09-13-2005, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Joan of Bark

YHWH was clearly a tribal God, never meant to apply to everyone. Christians then altered Him to be an all-inclusive God.

Hmmm...Well, yes and no. In the Hellenistic period some Jews liked to depict Judaism as a philosophical way of life by which all people could and should live. Even before this, certain passages in the Hebrew Bible (Deutero-Isaiah comes to mind) suggest that God ultimately sought all the nations to be included in his cult.

So, Yahweh as an all-inclusive god wasn't really a Christian innovation.

Cheers,
SC

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Joan of Bark Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Pua, in northern Thailand Posts: 2,823	YHWH was clearly a tribal God, never meant to apply to everyone. Christians then altered Him to be an all-inclusive God.

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