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grog225 · 09-30-2010, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by spin

You don't seem to be dealing with the OP which is about the problems involved in every dog and its fleas having a different definition of "myth" and by insisting on using the term one is perpetuating a lack of communication. "My definition of myth is fine and this is the crud to explain why" doesn't change the fact that we have discordant definitions and that people say one thing and others receive a different communication.

If you wanted to talk about the meaning of "myth" and its implications there is a poll specifically dealing with the opportunity, the partial results of which stimulated this thread. Here you can call anything you like "myth" and it will only support the OP.

spin

I responded to Dave 31's definition of the mythicist position, not the meaning of myth.

spin · 09-30-2010, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by grog225

I responded to Dave 31's definition of the mythicist position, not the meaning of myth.

Just a small procedural issue: if you are talking to a specific member, you should indicate the fact. When you don't, there's no easy way of knowing who you're talking to.

Big procedural issue: if the thread is not dealing with definitions of the mythicist position--and I don't think it is--it might be better not to deal with it in the thread.

spin

mountainman · 09-30-2010, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by grog225

My point on the myth position is this: the evidence does not support the bible story. The evidence that any of it was based on a singular human being named Jesus Christ is scant. The story does have the hallmarks of myth (the name alone is a hint!). There is evidence in the belief in a heavenly Jesus Christ...this figure is known before it has the name attached, known as the Logos (see Philo). Jesus Christ is just a later version of the Logos. Call that myth if you want. It is what it is.

Yes but precisely how much later? The trinity of Jesus Christ is a post Nicaean version of the trinity of Plotinus (c.270 CE). I prefer to call this type of myth a fiction and a fabrication. It is what it is.

In which century could we have expected bibles to have appeared in Greek book stores? Who was the first to read and research out the traces and the history and the long and loney pathways of this myth? And when did this intrepid early explorer of early christian history write? And what was the political climate of the times?

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