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Jabu Khan · 03-05-2004, 12:55 PM

It was a bottemless ark with +5 against fire attacks.

Rymmie1981 · 03-05-2004, 01:01 PM

The Ark: approx. 1.5 mil. cubic feet of carrying capacity

Gen 6:15 The length of the ark shall be 300 cubits(450 feet), the breadth of it 50 cubits (75 feet), and the height of it 30 cubits (45 feet).

Mid-sized oil tanker, e.g. Exxon Valdez: approx. 11 mil. cubic feet of carrying capacity

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Doing the math, about 7 arks could fit inside a mid-sized oil tanker. Obviously the tankers are huge. But, if anyone could find a way to fit the animals mentioned in Genesis into an oil tanker along with their food, I would concede the possibility that the Flood could have happened. But, then, you'd have to prove that it happened on something one-seventh the size of that tanker in order to get me defending the story. And only cold, hard numbers work on me. No God made them hibernate or any crap like that.

Anyways, the point is that the ark wasn't really all that big.

Oh, and while the insects could have found stuff to float on, some insects, like mosquitoes, need stagnant puddles of water in order to breed. A mosquito's lifetime is 18 days. That is three breeding cycles required in the forty days and nights of world-wide downpour, plus pools of water for next several months that the ark kept floating around waiting for the water to recede.

What about the insects required for the diets of certain amphibians that couldn't survive in the water of the flood? What about the salmon that require fresh running water for their eggs to hatch? Come on. I'm not even a biology major. *sigh*

*puts Uber Cross of Doom into recharge slot*

Doctor X · 03-05-2004, 01:24 PM

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I imagine there was quite a bit of debris floating around for insects to survive on.

Someone call Winace! We have a winner!

--J.D.

Matrioshka_Brain · 03-05-2004, 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by Magus55
I imagine there was quite a bit of debris floating around for insects to survive on.

Too bad there'd be nothing for them to eat, ether (it would be nice and cooked though...).

And after all those sediment layers supposedly settled...

Steven Carr · 03-05-2004, 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by uncle_onion

If the bIble was true and was inspired of god, then why does it not record Dinosaurs inthe book of Genesis?

Adam was supposed to name T. rex, but what he said when he saw it was deemed unsuitable to go in the Bible.

Matrioshka_Brain · 03-05-2004, 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by Steven Carr
Adam was supposed to name T. rex, but what he said when he saw it was deemed unsuitable to go in the Bible.

Speaking of which (names), how did Adam come up with 30-50000 names for all the beetle species in the world? And what for, without recording systems? And with the Tower of Bable incident coming up (that story outt'a give linguistists and anthopologists a good laugh), and the linguistic (a variety of memetic) evolution that would have inevitably followed?

And how come gennocide and rape get in, while mere verbal obsenties are neatly edited out?

Kosh · 03-05-2004, 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by Rymmie1981
Doing the math,

Silly. You forgot to use Fundy Math (tm)

(Otherwise known as "Thinking Like a First Century Jew")

Gawen · 03-05-2004, 06:37 PM

Kosh...that's True Math (TM)...

Oh...and BTW...I heard they found Noah's house. Seems with a little help from a dying stigmatic Nun, speaking in tongues on her deathbed, archeaologist have dug up Noah's house under 37 feet of sediment at the bottom of Mt. Ararat. No, it was not the same Nun that knew where Mary's house was.
Anyway, it seems the wood and daubble thatched hut was in perfect condition. A set of divinely inspired plans of the Ark were found in a small ossuary on top of the gravity flush toilet....

SignOfTheCross · 03-05-2004, 06:52 PM

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Originally posted by uncle_onion
Question for Xtians:

If the bIble was true and was inspired of god, then why does it not record Dinosaurs inthe book of Genesis?

john

Maybe dinosaurs were extinct for millions of years prior to when Genesis was written.

happytime · 03-05-2004, 07:56 PM

Wouldn't an event as big and important as dinosaurs living and then becoming extinct, quite possibly by gods will, be recorded in Genesis?

03-05-2004, 01:01 PM	#22
Rymmie1981 Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: At the Edge of the River Posts: 499	The ENORMOUS Ark The Ark: approx. 1.5 mil. cubic feet of carrying capacity Gen 6:15 The length of the ark shall be 300 cubits(450 feet), the breadth of it 50 cubits (75 feet), and the height of it 30 cubits (45 feet). Mid-sized oil tanker, e.g. Exxon Valdez: approx. 11 mil. cubic feet of carrying capacity Link Doing the math, about 7 arks could fit inside a mid-sized oil tanker. Obviously the tankers are huge. But, if anyone could find a way to fit the animals mentioned in Genesis into an oil tanker along with their food, I would concede the possibility that the Flood could have happened. But, then, you'd have to prove that it happened on something one-seventh the size of that tanker in order to get me defending the story. And only cold, hard numbers work on me. No God made them hibernate or any crap like that. Anyways, the point is that the ark wasn't really all that big. Oh, and while the insects could have found stuff to float on, some insects, like mosquitoes, need stagnant puddles of water in order to breed. A mosquito's lifetime is 18 days. That is three breeding cycles required in the forty days and nights of world-wide downpour, plus pools of water for next several months that the ark kept floating around waiting for the water to recede. What about the insects required for the diets of certain amphibians that couldn't survive in the water of the flood? What about the salmon that require fresh running water for their eggs to hatch? Come on. I'm not even a biology major. sigh puts Uber Cross of Doom into recharge slot

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Jabu Khan Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: the impenetrable fortress of the bubbleheads Posts: 1,308	It was a bottemless ark with +5 against fire attacks.

03-05-2004, 06:37 PM	#28
Gawen Contributor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Cylon Occupied Texas, but a Michigander @ heart Posts: 10,326	Kosh...that's True Math (TM)... Oh...and BTW...I heard they found Noah's house. Seems with a little help from a dying stigmatic Nun, speaking in tongues on her deathbed, archeaologist have dug up Noah's house under 37 feet of sediment at the bottom of Mt. Ararat. No, it was not the same Nun that knew where Mary's house was. Anyway, it seems the wood and daubble thatched hut was in perfect condition. A set of divinely inspired plans of the Ark were found in a small ossuary on top of the gravity flush toilet....

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happytime Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 25	Wouldn't an event as big and important as dinosaurs living and then becoming extinct, quite possibly by gods will, be recorded in Genesis?

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