MichieC

Thanks ZooMom.

Remember when I about got hung from the rafters for being EMHC?

Ugh.

Many more examples.

But after awhile it just really drags a person into the gutter.

On the mosaic front, finishing off a lazy susan. You'd probably like this one ZooMom.

MichieC

The judgementalism.

The constant measuring of a person's Catholicism.

Christianity seems to be overlooked.

It's the Catholic that matters. Even at the expense of mercy.

Many, many things seebs.

You cannot be an unique individual there. Even if you tow the partyline, if it is done in a style in which they do not approve you are just a protestant masquerading as Catholic.

There are so many layers to this that it is hard to explain.

But it seems that everyone is wanting to be the arm while discounting the other parts of the body in which the arm would be useless without.

ZooMom

I remember alot of threads about that...and you're right, the list of those kinds of topics is rather long. It gets very old after a while with nothing good ever coming from it, which is why I tend to ignore those threads. Which in turn is probably why I don't see alot of what goes on. *doh* :redface: Especially when I was not modding. And I think you made the best choice you could for you. When it all comes down, why should you (or anyone) put a message board above your faith and the work of Christ? You probably do more for and with your faith than half of the people who post over there. You walk the walk, and stumble though you might, at least you're MOVING. Too many people don't, but think they've got it all over other people because they've memorized the attendance rolls from every Council from Nicea to the present day.

Faith is a journey. We're all at different places on that road. Catholics understand this better than most...but it's apparent that alot of us are still susceptible to reckless driving and road rage. Pray for them. What else can you do?


Sounds fabulous! :angel: I have a very old lazy susan that belonged to my grandmother. I'd love to do something to make it more 'mine' without totally ruining the part that's 'hers'. Know what I mean? :angel:

loribee59

can't wait to see THAT one...!

seebs

Hmm.

So it's not that it's impossible, just that the resulting harassment and rudeness is unbearable.

Which I guess I am sympathetic too.

I often wish I were permitted to debate in OBOB. The pseudotraditionalists there are schoolyard bullies of the worst sort. I would not at all mind being allowed to constructively engage with them.

Mostly I just giggle. The infallibility of the church means that an offhand remark from a single bishop that supports their position is unquestionable truth, while a document starting out DOGMATIC CONSTITUTION OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH which is inconvenient is "merely pastoral".

What gets me is that it's not that, in response to these "merely pastoral" things, they explain how they have come to a conclusion apparently contrary to the pastoral. No, it's that they totally and completely ignore the document as though it had never been written. There isn't even a pretense of incorporating the inconveniences of Lumen Gentium or Deus Caritas Est into their theology; those documents are simply rejected and ignored.

Here is what I have to say about OBOB's worst behaviors, and I think it's pretty fucking damning:

It took me several days to be sure that Apologist, the "Catholic fascist" who extolls the virtues of Mussolini and Hitler, was really a troll and not merely confused.

MichieC

I asked for prayer because of nerves & instead of prayer got read the riot act. :Cheeky:

I'll get there. I just think it is more productive to do something as you mentioned rather than argue all the time. I was referred there for support & got the opposite.




You should post a pic of it. You know...this is what I do in part of my work. Taking old family pieces & turning them into something that can be used & incorporated into the home.

seebs

Not familiar with this term, I googled a bit.

[154.] As has already been recalled, “the only minister who can confect the Sacrament of the Eucharist in persona Christi is a validly ordained Priest" [254] Hence the name “minister of the Eucharist" belongs properly to the Priest alone. Moreover, also by reason of their sacred Ordination, the ordinary ministers of Holy Communion are the Bishop, the Priest and the Deacon, [255] to whom it belongs therefore to administer Holy Communion to the lay members of Christ’s faithful during the celebration of Mass. In this way their ministerial office in the Church is fully and accurately brought to light, and the sign value of the Sacrament is made complete.

How, exactly, do rafters become involved? Do tell.

Wings To Fly

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wings To Fly Check your PMs in about 10 Minutes.

Okay, maybe more like an hour (now), sorry.

Br. Max

true. BAN ALL GLITTER and outlaw excessively cute signature images!!

MichieC

Well I think you said it better than I could.

They are so concerned with worshipping their version of the Church & Church documents that Christianity is left out of the mix.

You cannot express yourself in any detail there as the babysitters will come down on you quickly & shut the whole thing down.

I do not expect Catholics to be just like me.

They should not expect Catholics to be just like them.

But I do expect some degree of Christianity, compassion & understanding in their posts.

It should be a working body with many different parts doing different things while working for the same goal.