pob14

And it's kind of irrelevant to the discussion . . . I mean, there was no year zero, but regardless, the year wasn't numbered by the BC/AD system at the time. Nobody woke up and said, "Hey, you hear about that kid born in the stable over in Bethlehem the other day? I guess we should start over numbering the years now." It wasn't the year 1 (or the year 0) at the time, so the invention/popularization of zero relative to that date doesn't matter.

adren@line

so its one big semantics argument...

BioBeing

Isn't it known though that there was no census in the winter of year 1? And the supposed reason for Mary and Joseph being in Bethlehem at the time Jesus was born was to be in a census. IIRC, the census took place in the summer 4 years later...

AthenaAwakened

Getting back to Coca cola and the image of Santa. Clement Clarke Moore (1779 - 1863) wrote Twas the night before Christmas also called A Visit from St. Nicholas in 1822. It's his imagery of Santa that is what we use today.

For some pre-Coke pics see http://www.americanantiquarian.org/E.../santa2000.htm


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