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usually, the author is aware that they are writing fiction. This author does not seem to be.
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(Luke 24:9) "When they came back from the tomb, they told all these things to the Eleven and to all the others." No running, but they certainly are telling somebody, not nobody, and "when they came back from the tomb" seems quite immediately to me. (John 20:2) "So she came running to Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one Jesus loved, and said, "They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we don't know where they have put him!" Certainly the problem is no smaller here! If we are to read Mark literally, then he is clearly saying something that is not compatible with the other writers. Mary did NOT run straight to Peter, according to Mark. She fled and told nobody, because she was afraid! And the "Easter Challenge" is a challenge to bible inerrantists who believe it is literally true everywhere. If we read these verses like a liberal there is no problem, as they are all telling "broadly the same story". The other writers just didn't feel it worth mentioning that Mary hesitated for some time before telling Peter and the others. But read Mark literally, and "... told nobody." is simply contradicting Matthew, Luke, and John. With Mark, there has to be at least a significant pause before she tells. |
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Whatever the author knows about the fact/fiction nature of his/her work, they don't always convey that fact to the audience. Crichton's 'Eaters of the Dead' is written as a translation of an ancient document, with notes added to expand upon certain translation problems and even references to how other scholars through history have reacted to some scenes in the text. It's clearly a re-telling of the Beowulf myth, but nothing in the text shows that the author is aware of this. Quite the opposite, in fact. |
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How many answers to the Sept 11 attacks were guided by reveation from your God? Come on, get real. It seems to me that you are saying that the anonymous evangelists did write down what they wanted to tell the message, but at the same time want to say that all these contradictory accounts are all accurate? If someone said that there were two planes involved in the Sept 11 attacks, they will be wrong. There were four. Simple as that. If they say that there were four planes involved in the WTC attack, they would be wrong. See how it works? What you want to say is that in both cases, they would be correct. That is wrong. They are not correct. All this twisting in the wind to satisfy a fantasy life. It's absurd. |
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You know, the responses I've seen here remind me of my new puppy. When I tell him "no", he looks at me, waits a minute, then goes back to doing what he was doing (usually chewing something up). It just goes right over their head. I've run into similar attitudes from some of my students, and am still trying to figure out a way to deal with that. So, in a way, these threads are learning experiences...and as my Dad used to say, "It builds character!" |
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You clearly lack sufficient skills in language comprehension and logic to engage in a rational discussion. Good luck to anyone who, after reading this thread, comes to any other conclusion. :wave: |
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(Luke 24:7) that the Son of Man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and on the third day rise again." (Luke 24:8) Then the women remembered his words, the women remembered his words after overcoming their fear. Why else would it say this. the harmonization sheds light on Luke's statement. |
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