Cojana

Membership, if no one believes my phenomena, I certainly don;t blame them, as I said my belief was in doubt when everyone laughed and at times violence erupted, the fact that I can close my eyes and see myself looking at myself,are an awesome ability, but only I can experience it, so its the same cynicism and disbelief, no one can fathom my experience,..alas,!!

sweep

sorry guy, you misread me- I was mirroring some of the attitudes round here, and I apologise for making light of your experience. For the record, I have had an out of body, and I saw myself sat on the floor next to my brother. I even remember saying to him:

'hey andy, my head is next to the ceiling'

Don't know what it was, and no matter what anyone says *shrug*- your rationalisations do my experience no credit.

Weltall

Or just a really vivid imagination.

Cojana

Sir,s you just don't want to concieve my phenomena as actual experience, you just don't grasp my perception to be real, if it happened because of drug,s I DON"T CARE,!! if drugs were the factor, I would use the same drug,duplicate its usage, anything to duplicate the experience, ! and if its just a vivid emgination, would you just wish your imagination was as keen as mine,? okey,! you guys have got me again, Touche,!!

MrFrosty

This are a funny thread, Cojana Man.

Cojana

I just realized no one are analytically pondering my mitosis,but those that are responding are denograding my integrity, except Luna Chick, her skeptocism are high but she seems to keep her opnion to 'skeptocism', I hope none of you cold individuals ever have an occurrence of such a magnitude that whom ever you tell will brand you a lier, I hoping this so that you can recognize your insensetivity of an honest human being, I'm 67 years old, and that mitosis, are my most cherished experience, and I say again,seems that no one picks up on this point,,, I DON'T CARE HOW OR WHAT CAUSED IT, I THANK MY LUCKY STARS, IT DID,!!

MrFrosty

Cojana of California, my fine posting friend, I think it is time to make another thread to dazzle us infidels with

Please make my day :notworthy

Cojana

Mr Frosty, although your request reeks of patronage,I will remind you of the same incident mitosis, and what happen before, same time, I was watching a tv movie about this guy they were going to electricute, this was where the pot started to overpower my conscience, as I watched the guy being forcibly taken to the chair, he was fighting tooth and nail,yelling and screaming, I then begun to feel a horrible sensation,I begun to feel what the guy was acting out, this are another sensation you have to experience to know what it are, I know what a condamned man feels like to be going to die, you know no one4 but the condamn knows its fear, I do too,! just as if I was the condamn man,!!

Corona688

Actually, plenty of people are. You aren't. Why would you rather ascribe supernatural powers on yourself than admit the far more reasonable possibility of it being a drug-induced hallucination? I have done no such thing. I simply ask questions that you have found it much, much safer to ignore. It is your absolutely uniform responses that ignore every issue we ever bring up that denigrate your integrity.

By this point I am absolutely convinced that you have no interest whatsoever in actually discussing this. You just want people to believe you have superpowers, and anyone who doesn't see fit to believe this ridiculous assumption, you call names. If I had such a powerful experience after I concuss my head while under the influence of mind-altering drugs, I'd hope that, when I recovered, I'd have the wisdom to say "Y'know what? I had a freaking CONCUSSION. A CONCUSSION while I was taking MIND-ALTERING DRUGS. How reliable are my experiences and memories of it? Probably not very good."

It's all in the brain, cojana. Including 'magnitude of experience'. Wanting it to be real doesn't make it real, no matter how much you believe it and want it. You believe you have this mystical power because your brain tells you so. What do mind-altering drugs affect? The brain. Why DO you trust your memories and judgement of it? What possible good reason could you have to trust them?

It's your stark refusal to even ACKNOWLEDGE the POSSIBILITY that it might be anything other than what you think it is that brands you a liar, cojana. You are not interested in the truth, you just want to aggrandize yourself.

It's as if you think that a naturalistic explanation for something tears it down. Heck no! The experience will be as powerful to you whether it was caused by a "soul" or a "concussion" or a "drug". We simply see no need to involve the supernatural in any explanation of anything, it is superfluous. Again, nobody here is saying you didn't have any such experience. We are simply saying you don't need a supernatural soul to explain it. If you quit tying this experience up with loads of supernatural hogwash there'd be nothing to argue about. Then what exactly is the point of the argument about the supernatural around it that you have been repeatedly provoking for months and months on end? And why do you keep bringing it up in threads about the supernatural as if it means anything?

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Cojana

Corona688, you've shown my remarks to confirm your criticism, please show my remarks that allude to supernatural incidents, I have REPEATEDLY DENIED ANY RELIGIOUS tones, I have Aguie's to my mitosis being drug induced,I did take 4 hits of my first joint,and I did wake up by the toilet bowl,but the sensation I begun to experience in the living room drove me out to the hall where I begun to feel faint from the horrible sensation,I fainted before I may have hit the bowl. please stop your patronizing of my character as ignorant, it doesn't suit an intellect like yourself,