infinity

i think you're all forgetting one very important thing here...
batman got his ass kicked by a 400 pound schizophernic black man. he wrote a song about it.

willis wallace: "i whupped batman's ass"

Batman got on my nerves
He was running me amock
He ridiculed me calling me a bum
I whooped Batman's ass
I whooped Batman's ass
I whooped Batman's ass
I whooped Batman's ass
I whooped Batman's ass
I whooped Batman's ass
Batman thought he was bad
He was a fucking asshole in the first place
He got knocked to the floor
I whooped Batman's ass
I whooped Batman's ass
I whooped Batman's ass
I whooped Batman's ass
I whooped Batman's ass
Batman beat the hell outta me and knocked me to the floor
I got back up and knocked him to the floor
He was being such a jackoff
I whooped Batman's ass
I whooped Batman's ass
I whooped Batman's ass
I whooped Batman's ass
I whooped Batman's ass
I whooped Batman's ass
I whooped Batman's ass
I whooped Batman's ass
I whooped Batman's ass
I whooped Batman's ass
I whooped
Batman's ass.
Rock over London
Rock on Chicago
Wheaties, the breakfast of champions

Soul Invictus

AND Superman!

Soul Invictus

About the whole comparison...remember that Batman beat Superman...ala an non-human. Since he died, I have to modify my earlier statement of him being immortal, but for all intents and purposes I think we can appreciate the difference between a mortal human and a supernatural being (God appeal). Come on now, has Spider-Man beat anyone remotely close to being non-human? He's a human himself, as is the Hulk. I think regardless of Spidey's claimed intelligence edge he might have over the Man of Steel, I don't think this marginalizes Batman's ability to thwart Superman in hand to hand combat, much less his avoiding death in this fight. I think that Spider-Man's edge is limited to his ability to get away plain and simple. It almost proffers that provided that Spider-Man and Batman engage in a physical confrontation, that Spider-Man might be physically superior to Superman, or do I err somewhere?

infinity

venom and carnage come pretty close
so does the beyonder, and hobgoblin (an alien and a denom spawn, respectively)

August Spies

I would say superman is also a pretty dumb hero. Dumb name, far too many powers, dumb villians, stupid costume etc.

HerFlamingLiberal

And Batman is a real guy?

In what universe?

HerFlamingLiberal

I have to say, I'm going with Spidey here. He's the more natural combatant - if you strip Batman of all his crap, then he's got, what? Alfred?

Yeah, Batman is a badass. But can he swing through the city, climb walls, and shoot webbing from his skin? WITHOUT tools? I think not. :notworthy:

Now, if we're allowed to bring in another guy... I think Superman would kick the crap out of both of them.

Mecha_Dude

Before the legions of rabid comic book fans smash HerFlamingLiberal to a bloody pulp in their gaping collective maw, I'll be the first to say it. Spiderman can't shoot webs without special web-gun-thingies. The organic webbing was a rather noticable change made in the movie from the source material.
We might get into a debate as to which version of spiderman is involved in the fight in question. In a fight as geeky as this one, I'd assume the two combatants would be the original comic book incarnations of the two heroes, rather than any of the various film adaptions, meaning sorry, in a locker room fight there wouldn't be too much webbing.

edit: ...strange... adjective choice

ex-xian

So does GL have any weaknesses? The one thing I always liked about DC characters is that no matter how powerful they were, there was always something that could bring them down.

ex-xian

I've not read comics regularly in awhile, but I remember the "Death in the Family" series, when the Joker kills the new Robin, Batman goes batshit crazy and "kills" Joker (who wasn't really killed, but Batman tried is damndest).