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Jesus Tap-Dancin' Christ · 08-27-2007, 05:55 PM

This thread isn't a train wreck. It's a plane crashed into a train that derailed into a superhighway. On a fault line. During an earthquake.

000 · 08-27-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus Tap-Dancin' Christ

This thread isn't a train wreck. It's a plane crashed into a train that derailed into a superhighway. On a fault line. During an earthquake.

And then a nuclear explosion...

Occam's Aftershave · 08-27-2007, 06:17 PM

The really sad part is, it makes as much sense as every other Creto argument we've seen here in the last year. :huh:

Mister Agenda · 08-27-2007, 06:23 PM

I know this is actually on-topic, please forgive. Humans are not fertile with any non-human species. All nearly-human species we might have been able to interbreed with are extinct. Dogs are right out.

Occam's Aftershave · 08-27-2007, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister Agenda

I know this is actually on-topic, please forgive. Humans are not fertile with any non-human species. All nearly-human species we might have been able to interbreed with are extinct. Dogs are right out.

IIRC that's not 100% verified. According to our current understanding of genetics, there's a good chance a human-chimp pairing could produce a viable offspring. Humans and Bonobos are more genetically similar than lions are to tigers, which do rarely mate and produce ligers. For moral and ethical reasons however, no one will touch that experiment with a 10 foot pole.

* Still, there are rumors of some hidden experiments that float to the surface occasionally. Just look at Ken Ham.

Gooch's dad · 08-27-2007, 06:47 PM

Will you look at that, folks! Occam's Aftershave has taken this complete nuclear jet-fueled superhighway train wreck, and pulled it right back into the field of Evo/Creationism, even managing a Ken Ham reference!

I gotta tell ya, you don't see fancy footwork like that in the minor leagues, no sirree. That's why he gets paid the big bucks.

Back to your yiffing foxes, after this break for our sponsors.

Worldtraveller · 08-27-2007, 06:48 PM

I don't see any E/C related content in this....thread.

*punts to ~E~*

Hyndis · 08-27-2007, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 555

No, personally I do not believe it could be considered full consent, because full consent in human terms cannot be applied to an animal. An animal is not sentient and cannot be assumed to be fully aware of what it is 'initiating'. If we believe that even a sentient 8-year-old human child cannot give true consent (and rightly so), then of course we can't consider a non-sentient animal to give true consent.

There's also the issue of harm. There have been many documented cases of abuse on animals where sexual actions performed by a person on an animal has caused the animal severe and irreparable damage. A cat in heat may present itself to a human, but a human attempting copulation with that animal would almost certainly injure or even kill the animal.

What about, say, a female human with a male dog? The human could present herself to the dog, and if the dog takes the opportunity, couldn't that be considered consent?

Also, having sex with animals is probably the least harmful thing we do to them as a civilization. Untold billions of them are slaughtered every year for food, fur, and recreation. Assuming the mechanics are such that the animal isn't harmed (no humans on house cats), is it really all that much worse than eating meat?

Azathoth · 08-27-2007, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicious Love

You're just jealous because that other Elder God got a board, and you didn't.

Yeah, but considering the place it's located, that's like being the guest of honour at a Star Trek sex party.

Sure, everyone is calling your name, but you have to hang around with a few dozen sweaty, naked, Captain Kirk impersonators.

"My god...Spock...I'm about to...come...on your face"

Elká · 08-28-2007, 12:15 AM

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No, personally I do not believe it could be considered full consent, because full consent in human terms cannot be applied to an animal.

My wife is an animal and she said yes, YEEEHAH!

You've got to get over this animal/human dichotomy hangup, you naked ape you.

Off to get my clock cleaned, Elká.

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08-27-2007, 05:55 PM	#71
Jesus Tap-Dancin' Christ Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Heaven Posts: 6,980	This thread isn't a train wreck. It's a plane crashed into a train that derailed into a superhighway. On a fault line. During an earthquake.

08-27-2007, 06:17 PM	#73
Occam's Aftershave Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: California Posts: 2,215	The really sad part is, it makes as much sense as every other Creto argument we've seen here in the last year. :huh:

08-27-2007, 06:23 PM	#74
Mister Agenda Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 895	I know this is actually on-topic, please forgive. Humans are not fertile with any non-human species. All nearly-human species we might have been able to interbreed with are extinct. Dogs are right out.

08-27-2007, 06:47 PM	#76
Gooch's dad Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Madison WI USA Posts: 3,508	Will you look at that, folks! Occam's Aftershave has taken this complete nuclear jet-fueled superhighway train wreck, and pulled it right back into the field of Evo/Creationism, even managing a Ken Ham reference! I gotta tell ya, you don't see fancy footwork like that in the minor leagues, no sirree. That's why he gets paid the big bucks. Back to your yiffing foxes, after this break for our sponsors.

08-27-2007, 06:48 PM	#77
Worldtraveller Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,834	I don't see any E/C related content in this....thread. punts to ~E~

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