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Magus55 · 10-14-2003, 04:19 PM

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No, because there are people, apparently Christian, who are able to cheer at the notion of the deaths of thousands or millions of innocent bystanders.

I wish people would stop trying to hurry God, and spend their time obeying Him instead. You know, taking care of the sick, the poor, the hungry? Stuff like that?

He also told us to follow the end times and keep an eye on prophecy.

Mageth · 10-14-2003, 04:20 PM

That thread goes to show that, while some Christians claim to "serve" the NT "God of love and mercy", they secretly prefer the wrathful OT God.

Magus55 · 10-14-2003, 04:21 PM

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And "nuking" or otherwise destroying an Arab city, potentially killing tens of thousands of men, women, and children, would stop that terrorism how, exactly?

Dropping 2 atomic bombs on Japan ended the worst war in history.

Magus55 · 10-14-2003, 04:23 PM

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No, it's because fundies are licking their chops at the prospect of bloodshed and misery because they interpret events as being divinely inspired and predicted. The heathens will be smited while the righteous enjoy the gains and virgin daughters. It's this sort of "us versus them" mentality that leads to depravity, not some mythical original sin.

Oh, and who was it that after 1900+ absense from the area moved in and kicked the Palestinians out? And who is it that has the support of the U.S., the most powerful bully in the world? I have no sympathy for terrorists, but the Israeli have a lot of blood on their hands as well.

I never said Israel didn't. God will deal with Israel for their rejection too. Don't think Israel is gonna get away with their sins.

Magus55 · 10-14-2003, 04:24 PM

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No. Should they slaughter random innocents to show people that slaughtering innocents is wrong?

As a Christian you should know that no one is innocent in the eyes of God. Or are you as liberal as Rational BAC and only accept the parts of the Bible that you like and agree with?

Mageth · 10-14-2003, 04:24 PM

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Dropping 2 atomic bombs on Japan ended the worst war in history.

A sad fact, and one that should be rued and not cheered. Thousands of women and children were killed or maimed by those bombs, you know.

But not at all comparable to the current situation in the Mideast.

Mageth · 10-14-2003, 04:28 PM

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As a Christian you should know that no one is innocent in the eyes of God. Or are you as liberal as Rational BAC and only accept the parts of the Bible that you like and agree with?

So kill 'em all, God thinks they're shit anyway, is that what you're saying?

What about the verse I quoted above, and other lovey-dovey verses from the NT? (outside of Revelation, where the OT God is resurrected - that's the true second coming, the resurrection of the God of War and Wrath)

"He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance." - 2 Peter 3:9

Magus55 · 10-14-2003, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by Mageth
A sad fact, and one that should be rued and not cheered. Thousands of women and children were killed or maimed by those bombs, you know.

But not at all comparable to the current situation in the Mideast.

Yes, and while the killing of women and children ( or anyone for that matter) is awful, sometimes its required in this world. The sooner the end times come, the sooner God returns the Earth to paradise and all the suffering ends.

Demigawd · 10-14-2003, 04:28 PM

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I never said Israel didn't. God will deal with Israel for their rejection too. Don't think Israel is gonna get away with their sins.

That's a classic religious cop-out that claims injustice will be settled in the afterlife. The fact is the Israelis, in their quest to restore their ancient nation, have displaced another nation of people who are understandably "sore" over the situation. That's the reality we are dealing with. Conjecture over righteous justice and prophecy is a pathetic fantasy intended to allow the atrocities to continue because, supposedly, the creater of this vast universe has taken sides.

Magus55 · 10-14-2003, 04:31 PM

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So kill 'em all, God thinks they're shit anyway, is that what you're saying?

What about the verse I quoted above, and other lovey-dovey verses from the NT? (outside of Revelation, where the OT God is resurrected - that's the true second coming, the resurrection of the God of War and Wrath)

"He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance." - 2 Peter 3:9

God loves everyone more than you can imagine. And there is a difference between patience, and letting God's children suffer longer than needed. God is patient for as many people as possible to come to repentence, so they don't face Hell ( perish). There is a breaking point though at which God will declare enough.

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